Costs that America is willing to bear to surround the Chinese just in case they get uppity. You may not want to be in Korea, but America sure as fuck does. They certainly aren't going to be relinquishing the string of pearls because you think it would be a good idea to pull the US out of East Asia, that's for sure.Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah we do. It costs us a lot to maintain troops there, especially after our fair-weather friends (*cough* Canada) took off and left us holding the bag there.
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Indeed, just sending the Carl Vinson is actually a sign that nothing is happening rather than anything to get war fever about.ssu wrote:In fact, a lot has to happen for things to escalate, actually.Smitty-48 wrote:If the Pentagon thought that there was even a slim chance that they might have an escalation on the DMZ, they'd be doing a hell of a lot more than just rerouting the Carl Vinson, the Carl Vinson steaming by doesn't even amount to saber rattling, if things were actually heating up, there'd be four or five carrier strike groups en route.
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StCapps wrote:Costs that America is willing to bear to surround the Chinese just in case they get uppity. You may not want to be in Korea, but America sure as fuck does, they ain't relinquishing the string of pearls because you think it would be a good idea.Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah we do. It costs us a lot to maintain troops there, especially after our fair-weather friends (*cough* Canada) took off and left us holding the bag there.
Dude, what?
If China decides to get uppity on the Asian continent, there is fuck all we can do about that. Those troops in the Korean peninsula are speed bumps. That's literally what they tell you when you get deployed. You can't bring your family because of it.
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America is making $$$ selling weapons to south Korea. I don't see any problem whatsoever with America's interests and the status quo. Keep our own people a little afraid of a boogeyman and keep selling arms to the boogeyman's neighbor.
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Maybe China thinks they can replace Kim with a leader that will still scare the shit out of the US, but will scare them less. In that scenario their bargaining chip would be improved by disposing Kim instead of keeping him around. China still probably wants to keep him in power, but if he gets too uppity, even China has it's limits.SilverEagle wrote:They maybe sick of Kim's shit but they want to keep him in power so that when he acts up they can go in and calm things down but only after they get what they want from the U.S.A., like getting Trump to back down from a trade war with them. China wants us to keep a worried eye on N.K. for that reason. Kim is just a predictable dog that the Chinese use as a bargaining chip.
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It's about Nukes bro, the US might reduce the troop levels in South Korea, but they aren't leaving altogether, because they don't want to. Same goes for Japan. The US wants to be able to nuke China's nukes, and if the US bailed on East Asia to save money then that becomes a whole lot harder. There are plenty of reasons to stay in East Asia and these reasons sell better to the American public than the reasons for leaving, or the peaceniks would be getting elected in droves as opposed to war hawks.Speaker to Animals wrote:Dude, what?
If China decides to get uppity on the Asian continent, there is fuck all we can do about that. Those troops in the Korean peninsula are speed bumps. That's literally what they tell you when you get deployed. You can't bring your family because of it.
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StCapps wrote:It's about Nukes bro, the US might reduce the troop levels in South Korea, but they aren't leaving altogether, because they don't want to. Same goes for Japan. The US wants to be able to nuke china's nukes. and if they bailed on East Asia that become a whole lot harder.Speaker to Animals wrote:Dude, what?
If China decides to get uppity on the Asian continent, there is fuck all we can do about that. Those troops in the Korean peninsula are speed bumps. That's literally what they tell you when you get deployed. You can't bring your family because of it.
China doesn't fuck around with nukes. Their warheads are plus twenty megaton yields designed to exterminate the population centers of the United States. They don't have primary targets like Russia and the US do. If we get into with them, they are just going to try to exterminate the people.
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Which is why it's nice to be able to neuter them before they do so with a pre-emptive countervalue strike that prevents them from nuking the US, and to have that in your back pocket, just in case such a war is about to break out. If the US pulls out of East Asia then it will be harder to execute an effective counterforce strike against China, so they don't want to do it. Plus it will harder to control shipping routes if you make it easier for China to shut them down by bailing on East Asia.Speaker to Animals wrote:China doesn't fuck around with nukes. Their warheads are plus twenty megaton yields designed to exterminate the population centers of the United States. They don't have primary targets like Russia and the US do. If we get into with them, they are just going to try to exterminate the people.
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StCapps wrote:Which is why it's nice to be able to neuter them before they do so with a pre-emptive countervalue strike that prevents them from nuking the US, and to have that in your back pocket, just in case such a war is about to break out.Speaker to Animals wrote:China doesn't fuck around with nukes. Their warheads are plus twenty megaton yields designed to exterminate the population centers of the United States. They don't have primary targets like Russia and the US do. If we get into with them, they are just going to try to exterminate the people.
WTF?
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OH SHIT TURN ON CNN!