Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Penner » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:13 pm

It goes against long-held US policy that both GOP and Dem presidents followed:
President-elect Donald Trump has spoken directly with Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen - breaking with nearly four decades of US policy - in a move brought a swift protest of China amid fears relations with Beijing could be damaged.

The 10-minute telephone call with Taiwan's leadership was the first by a US president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of “one China”.

China's Foreign Ministry said it had lodged "stern representations" with what it called the "relevant US side", urging the careful handling of the Taiwan issue to avoid any unnecessary disturbances in the relationship of the two superpowers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53501.html
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:21 pm

Paulo wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:President Obama sells $1.83 billion in military hardware to Taiwan; crickets

Trump not even President yet gets courtesy call from Taiwanese President; liberals go apeshit.

aaah ha! See? You always agree that the economics surpasses that BS ideology or whatever. Making deals, that is the point. Who gives a S about what they say, it's what they do that matters,
I wouldn't say the arming of Taiwan is an economic issue for the Americans, if it was, they'd be arming Taiwan to the teeth, which at this juncture they are not, arming Taiwan is more of a leverage play against the Chinese when the Chinese rattle sabres, America essentially plays Taiwan as one of its chess pieces in the China Seas.
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by StCapps » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:22 pm

Penner wrote:It goes against long-held US policy that both GOP and Dem presidents followed:
President-elect Donald Trump has spoken directly with Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen - breaking with nearly four decades of US policy - in a move brought a swift protest of China amid fears relations with Beijing could be damaged.

The 10-minute telephone call with Taiwan's leadership was the first by a US president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of “one China”.

China's Foreign Ministry said it had lodged "stern representations" with what it called the "relevant US side", urging the careful handling of the Taiwan issue to avoid any unnecessary disturbances in the relationship of the two superpowers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53501.html
We're aware, it's not a big deal. Yawn city, media has nothing else to talk about and is blowing it out of proportion.
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Xenophon » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:39 pm

Penner wrote:It goes against long-held US policy that both GOP and Dem presidents followed:
President-elect Donald Trump has spoken directly with Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen - breaking with nearly four decades of US policy - in a move brought a swift protest of China amid fears relations with Beijing could be damaged.

The 10-minute telephone call with Taiwan's leadership was the first by a US president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of “one China”.

China's Foreign Ministry said it had lodged "stern representations" with what it called the "relevant US side", urging the careful handling of the Taiwan issue to avoid any unnecessary disturbances in the relationship of the two superpowers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53501.html
Are all long held policies good? I would advise you to not be so afraid of change. Don't be a reactionary. ;)

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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:47 pm

Xenophon wrote:Are all long held policies good? I would advise you to not be so afraid of change. Don't be a reactionary. ;)
Hear, hear. <bangs desk>
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by boethius » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:02 pm

If China gets pissed off enough, it might see if its one aircraft carrier can make it across the Pacific without sinking and park off our west coast.

Menacingly.

(And with half a dozen US attack subs shadowing it the whole time).
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:05 pm

Surely one SSN is sufficient to deal the Liaoning, no need to waste six of them on that tasking.
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Post by Dand » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:07 pm

Penner wrote:It goes against long-held US policy that both GOP and Dem presidents followed:
President-elect Donald Trump has spoken directly with Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen - breaking with nearly four decades of US policy - in a move brought a swift protest of China amid fears relations with Beijing could be damaged.

The 10-minute telephone call with Taiwan's leadership was the first by a US president-elect or president since President Jimmy Carter switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China in 1979, acknowledging Taiwan as part of “one China”.

China's Foreign Ministry said it had lodged "stern representations" with what it called the "relevant US side", urging the careful handling of the Taiwan issue to avoid any unnecessary disturbances in the relationship of the two superpowers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 53501.html
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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Paulo » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Paulo wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:President Obama sells $1.83 billion in military hardware to Taiwan; crickets

Trump not even President yet gets courtesy call from Taiwanese President; liberals go apeshit.

aaah ha! See? You always agree that the economics surpasses that BS ideology or whatever. Making deals, that is the point. Who gives a S about what they say, it's what they do that matters,
I wouldn't say the arming of Taiwan is an economic issue for the Americans, if it was, they'd be arming Taiwan to the teeth, which at this juncture they are not, arming Taiwan is more of a leverage play against the Chinese when the Chinese rattle sabres, America essentially plays Taiwan as one of its chess pieces in the China Seas.
You mentioned the 1.83 billion! And who cares about americans business? but we all know that Trump must have some business in Taiwan, so do not play dumb with me. :-)

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Re: Trump speaks with Taiwan President, China goes ape shit

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:38 pm

Paulo wrote:You mentioned the 1.83 billion! And who cares about americans business? but we all know that Trump must have some business in Taiwan, so do not play dumb with me. :-)
$1.83 billion is obviously chump change in the context of a $20 trillion annual GDP, doesn't even reach the threshold of walking around money for the Americans, the US government blows $6.85 billion every sixty seconds.

Totally insignificant to the Americans in an economic sense, entirely a geopolitical leverage play.
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