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Post by C-Mag » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:28 pm

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C-Mag wrote:NPR found to be taking money from Russian Hacking group.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/npr-says-r ... derwriter/

Compelled to cease taking funds.
The suck the wrinkled tit of Clinton, this doesn’t amaze me at all.
It certainly seems that the Left is getting exposed for projecting their sins on others. Point to average folks call them misogynists to hide the pervs in their closet. Take money from Russia for Public Fucking radio, just to trash Trump for 'collusion'.
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by The Conservative » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:40 pm

C-Mag wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
C-Mag wrote:NPR found to be taking money from Russian Hacking group.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/npr-says-r ... derwriter/

Compelled to cease taking funds.
The suck the wrinkled tit of Clinton, this doesn’t amaze me at all.
It certainly seems that the Left is getting exposed for projecting their sins on others. Point to average folks call them misogynists to hide the pervs in their closet. Take money from Russia for Public Fucking radio, just to trash Trump for 'collusion'.
This is nothing new, NPR is notorious for being backstabbing to anyone who doesn’t agree with them, and severe left-leaning reporting.
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Post by kybkh » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:00 pm

I don't understand the narrative that Russia running BLM ads is supposed to be pro-Trump. Have African Americans fired up and angry clearly only benefits one party.

Imagine if HRC campaign wanted to gin up the vote by running race baiting ads and in order to hide their actions the acted through Russian assets.

That makes way more since the Muh Russiagate.
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Post by Penner » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:38 pm

kybkh wrote:I don't understand the narrative that Russia running BLM ads is supposed to be pro-Trump. Have African Americans fired up and angry clearly only benefits one party.

Imagine if HRC campaign wanted to gin up the vote by running race baiting ads and in order to hide their actions the acted through Russian assets.

That makes way more since the Muh Russiagate.
Its about futhering diving the nation and has nothing to do with party/poltical affiliation. Russia honesty problably doesn't give a shit what American really believes, they just want to divide the nation.

As with the ads themselves it was reported that some were reported to be pro-Trump, at least claiming that these were black people for Trump and that they wete also for BLM.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:44 pm

Penner wrote:
kybkh wrote:I don't understand the narrative that Russia running BLM ads is supposed to be pro-Trump. Have African Americans fired up and angry clearly only benefits one party.

Imagine if HRC campaign wanted to gin up the vote by running race baiting ads and in order to hide their actions the acted through Russian assets.

That makes way more since the Muh Russiagate.
Its about futhering diving the nation and has nothing to do with party/poltical affiliation. Russia honesty problably doesn't give a shit what American really believes, they just want to divide the nation.

As with the ads themselves it was reported that some were reported to be pro-Trump, at least claiming that these were black people for Trump and that they wete also for BLM.

Dividing the American people and fomenting racial, ethnic, and class strife is what the democratic party does, has always done, and probably will do until they day that evil organization is finally destroyed. Who are you kidding here?

The only people who benefit from this are the democrats, which is why they fomented the race wars in the first place. This is their creation!

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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
kybkh wrote:I don't understand the narrative that Russia running BLM ads is supposed to be pro-Trump. Have African Americans fired up and angry clearly only benefits one party.

Imagine if HRC campaign wanted to gin up the vote by running race baiting ads and in order to hide their actions the acted through Russian assets.

That makes way more since the Muh Russiagate.
Its about futhering diving the nation and has nothing to do with party/poltical affiliation. Russia honesty problably doesn't give a shit what American really believes, they just want to divide the nation.

As with the ads themselves it was reported that some were reported to be pro-Trump, at least claiming that these were black people for Trump and that they wete also for BLM.

Dividing the American people and fomenting racial, ethnic, and class strife is what the democratic party does, has always done, and probably will do until they day that evil organization is finally destroyed. Who are you kidding here?

The only people who benefit from this are the democrats, which is why they fomented the race wars in the first place. This is their creation!
Only mental illness could cause a person to not see this. This is nothing more than another excuse from the dems to avoid taking responsibility. It ain't Russia's fault the nation is turning on you. You did that all on your own.
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Post by BjornP » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:07 am

kybkh wrote:I don't understand the narrative that Russia running BLM ads is supposed to be pro-Trump. Have African Americans fired up and angry clearly only benefits one party.

Imagine if HRC campaign wanted to gin up the vote by running race baiting ads and in order to hide their actions the acted through Russian assets.

That makes way more since the Muh Russiagate.
If that's a narrative that's being peddled, it's an idiotic one. It's not about pro- or anti-Trump. Nor about Democrats or Republicans. Some Democrats like to think it is, and will spin stories about collusion and rigged elections, all because their spectacularly bad candidate lost.

Russia has run propaganda campaigns against the US with the intent to undermine trust in government and generally undermine US credibility abroad, since long before Trump ever announced his candidacy.

The notion that Russia created all the social unrest, BLM/SJW'ers, alt-righters, etc. is nonsense if anyone suggests as much. They simply take advantage of social strife and unrest already in existence, and fan the flames of it as much as possible. You did the same thing to do them on several occasions back when it was the US that had the world's most succesful propaganda outlet(s). The 1956 Hungarian Uprising wasn't begun by Radio Free Europe, for example. But it escalated when RFE broadcasters started telling them that the US would "soon" send troops to held the rebels.
If you want to see the success of RFE other than that, you just have to look to most of Eastern Europe. Countries that were never democratic before falling into the Soviet "sphere of influence", nevertheless adopted liberal democratic constitutions. The openly US-controlled RFE was the singular most popular illegal radio station, and they constantly exalted the ideals of democracy, civil rights, and other Western freedoms.

It's a false dilemma fallacy that it is "EITHER the Democrats/Liberals/SJW/Marxists who are dividing your country, OR it is Russia. It is both. One who started the fire, and a third party who sneaks in to fan the flames. It's still your responsibility to fix. Russia's simply looking out for its own interest like you are. Not their fault that you won't put out the fires. If you were the leader of Russia, and wanted to expand your country's geopolitical influence, would you not seek to diminish your biggest geopolitical rival's influence?
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Post by Martin Hash » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:00 am

The SJW movement IS a Marxist movement, so it fits the old Soviet ideology. Russians didn't turn Libertarian just because the Berlin Wall fell. Command-Economies don't work but as proven by the Social Democratic nations, pseudo-socialist Market economies mostly do, with more-n-more sliding towards Marxist ideology. SJWism is a natural exploit for the Russians because it IS what Trotsky wanted, world communist domination, they just hadn't got the formula totally right in 1917.
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Post by BjornP » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:35 am

Martin Hash wrote:The SJW movement IS a Marxist movement, so it fits the old Soviet ideology. Russians didn't turn Libertarian just because the Berlin Wall fell. Command-Economies don't work but as proven by the Social Democratic nations, pseudo-socialist Market economies mostly do, with more-n-more sliding towards Marxist ideology. SJWism is a natural exploit for the Russians because it IS what Trotsky wanted, world communist domination, they just hadn't got the formula totally right in 1917.
The Soviets would probably have dragged your ass into a dark room and shot you in the back of the head if you started mouthing off about "gender non-comformity", normalizing transgenderism, or even trying to normalize being gay. They did support feminism, but not in the hysterical form it sometimes takes with third wave feminists. While not at Soviet levels, modern day Russia also only has little tolerance for homosexuality.

The difference between Russia and the Soviet Union is really that there is no longer an internationalist and/or ideological imperative to the geopolitcal interests of Russia. Much like the US in the Cold War, they will work with anyone as long as it serves their national (and no longer internationalist) interests.

That said, while in the States the groupings who look to Russia as an ally, are on the right to far right, in Europe, it's also the old European Communists who (still) support anything Russia does while painting the US as the greatest threat to world peace. Not talking SJW Marxists, here, we're talking die hard Trotskyists, Leninists, Stalinists and Maoists who'd reject most if not all the narratives of the SJW's. Russia isn't Communist anymore, but to those old-school Communists Russia is still the go-to ally and eternal, innocent victim of American capitalist aggression.

So, don't expect any Russian leaders are contemplating "world communist domination". If a foreign regime/government works against their national interests, they'll either try and influence directly diplomatically, or if they won't play ball at all, they'll try and undermine the hostile government.
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Post by Martin Hash » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:48 am

Marxism, equality of outcome, from those, to those, IS SJWism. The Soviets were too conservative to carry through. They were Russian Orthodox & Jewish, after all, underneath all that atheist bravado.
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