Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:59 am

So the Normandy invasion was for pearl harbor, and anyone who says 1918 had something to do with it is making pointless abstractions. Got it.

Where's my degree?
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by DBTrek » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:02 am

The Conservative wrote:It wasn't about slavery, it was about overall power.. . . So no, this was not about slavery overall, it was about political power to keep slavery intact.
The Conservative wrote:For the South, it was slavery, but that was the end result, the reason behind it all was political power, which they would lose if Californa became a Free State.
Right on champ.
Way to bumble your way through a bunch of mental fluff and arrive at what-the-fuck-I-told-you-the-first-time.

Bravo.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:03 am

DBTrek wrote:
The Conservative wrote:It wasn't about slavery, it was about overall power.. . . So no, this was not about slavery overall, it was about political power to keep slavery intact.
The Conservative wrote:For the South, it was slavery, but that was the end result, the reason behind it all was political power, which they would lose if Californa became a Free State.
Right on champ.
Way to bumble your way through a bunch of mental fluff and arrive at what-the-fuck-I-told-you-the-first-time.

Bravo.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by apeman » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 am

Apeman's personal view: leave all monuments up everywhere. History happened. Go learn from it. Even that abomination of the Lenin statue can stay. Stop being a victim about everything.

If some segment of society REALLY cannot live with it, they have to articulate why, and the limits, for anyone to even consider compromise.

Resort to mob violence to physically destroy without consent of your neighbor is wrong and adds so much fuel to the fire.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by DBTrek » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:07 am

Okeefenokee wrote:So the Normandy invasion was for pearl harbor, and anyone who says 1918 had something to do with it is making pointless abstractions. Got it.
:lol:

No, 1918 is widely credited as being a primary cause for the Normady Invasion, of course! All of Eisenhower's troops stormed the beach shouting "Remember the Treaty of Versailles (which was actually signed in 1919)", and nary a one of them gave two shits about Japan attacking the USA.

Clearly your "logic" isn't contorted in the least. It's all connected, maaaaaaan. Every historical event known to man actually arises from the first two cavemen disagreeing over who gets to gnaw a bone next. You just have to go back far enough, maaaaan. Widen your perspective, maaaaaan. It's all about that first argument in that first cave dwelling.
Pffffft.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:17 am

DBTrek wrote:Snip
So in other words, you refuse to answer a question in where you know you are wrong. Good to know.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 am

DBTrek wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:So the Normandy invasion was for pearl harbor, and anyone who says 1918 had something to do with it is making pointless abstractions. Got it.
:lol:

No, 1918 is widely credited as being a primary cause for the Normady Invasion, of course! All of Eisenhower's troops stormed the beach shouting "Remember the Treaty of Versailles (which was actually signed in 1919)", and nary a one of them gave two shits about Japan attacking the USA.

Clearly your "logic" isn't contorted in the least. It's all connected, maaaaaaan. Every historical event known to man actually arises from the first two cavemen disagreeing over who gets to gnaw a bone next. You just have to go back far enough, maaaaan. Widen your perspective, maaaaaan. It's all about that first argument in that first cave dwelling.
Pffffft.
This clears up a lot. You really do look at history like one string, and any event on that string is only connected to the one event preceding it.

The Soviet occupation of east Berlin had nothing to do with the Russian revolution. Those two events aren't sequential. They can only be related if they happen consecutively.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:25 am

"She had yellow hair and she walked funny and she made a noise like... O my God, please don't kill me! "

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by DBTrek » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:28 am

Okeefenokee wrote:This clears up a lot. You really do look at history like one string, and any event on that string is only connected to the one event preceding it.
Indeed. I, DBTrek, personally control how history is recorded in understandable and relevant time-blocks. I controlled it when Heroditus did it, I controlled it when Will Durant did it, I control it when Dan Carlin does it.

It's an absolute tyranny of understandable and clearly related events transpiring within a reasonable proximity of the event under discussion.

Historical tyrant, right here.

Before my time (which was never), people had a more amorphous view of history, where everything was related to everything else, and every event was actually caused by whatever subset of everything the speaker wanted to focus on.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:33 am

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Aesthetic tbqh