THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:12 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: You should have known he was lying politician, that much was obvious. If you voted for Trump because you thought he wasn't a lying politician, then you shouldn't have voted for him, talk about naive.
Really miss being able to research old posts. You had your head so far up Trump's ass during the primaries, and now, because I can't go back and look, you can pretend you were mostly anti-Trump all along. Obvious lie is obvious.
You just can't imagine that you were wrong in your assessment of me in the primaries, but it was. You are not some flawless judge, you jump to some real dumb conclusions about others opinions recently and I am a prime example of you fucking up in your judgement.

I'm not anti-Trump, but I was never a Trump fanboy with my head up his ass, there is plenty of middle ground, you just wanted to pretend I was an extremist because I called you out on your dumb arguments a lot and you want to believe that the reason I did that was because I'm an extremist, not because your arguments actually sucked. You need to think you are smarter than to make such shitty arguments so you refuse to accept the possibility that you could have done so, but you did and it's you stop living in denial about it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:13 am

Martin Hash wrote:
I still am a Waller, big time. That too may enter into the Lie Arena.
Sure, but you aren't going to get one. Mexico will pay the costs associated with not building a wall. Maybe that's what he meant!
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:14 am

StCapps wrote:You are not some flawless judge, you jump to some real dumb conclusions about others opinions recently and I am a prime example of you fucking up in your judgement.
Says one of the people claiming I'm a pro-Hillary SJW.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:16 am

Here's some positive points that I have with Trump:

- Has gotten with his rhetoric NATO countries to commit to the defence spending requirements far better than Obama ever did.
- has made some very good picks on his administration (Mattis, Kelly, McMaster)
- Chose a good pick for the Supreme court.
- has kept the neocons out at least for now (I know, some will argue that this isn't the case. But it is the fact).
- has the ability to rattle the cages yet then follow the mainstream US foreign policy
- didn't cut spending for NASA (I'm not sure, but I think it is so)
- Isn't Hillary, and hence we don't have such a hostile fight with the GOP being the attacker. Yes, we have things like the "Russiagate", but it's more a farce compared to the nasty impeach-Hillary fight.
- has the media far more on the watchdog mode than it would be if it would be Hillary in the Whitehouse.

And of course, US politics and going in the Whitehouse is never boring!
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:17 am

StCapps wrote: Just because you don't like Trump doesn't mean you are basing that dislike on his fuck ups in office, this is my point, you are basing your dislike of Trump on not liking him as a person not the job he's doing as POTUS. The rest of us base our opinions of Trump's job performance on his actual performance and not on personality traits of his that rub us the wrong way, you need to get your priorities straight.
I can't keep up with all the fuck ups with WH is blundering itself through.

Can you state, with certainty, where Trump stands on ANY issue? Pick an issue and tell me Trump's position on it. Not what his position will be in four hours, not what it was four hours ago, but right now, where does Trump stand on one of his positions?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:18 am

Kath wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
I still am a Waller, big time. That too may enter into the Lie Arena.
Sure, but you aren't going to get one. Mexico will pay the costs associated with not building a wall. Maybe that's what he meant!
How's that going to stop the Climate refugees?

p.s. Hey, it took most of the First-100 days for Trump to totally do a 180. It was a couple months of honeymoon and wishful thinking, and even now, he hasn't done anything yet. And don't forget, if he does NOTHING but appoint Supreme Court judges, that would be worth it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:21 am

There will be at least a token wall built on some portion the US-Mexico border. How much Mexico contributes to that wall is entirely open to negotiation. It will be only a small part of the overall border security plan pushed during Trump's presidency.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:29 am

StCapps wrote:There will be at least a token wall built on some portion the US-Mexico border. How much Mexico contributes to that wall is entirely open to negotiation. It will be only a small part of the overall border security plan pushed during Trump's presidency.
Someone will take 10 minutes and explain why that wall is almost completely useless, and in terms of ROI, completely useless. He'll then proclaim that border security is much more complicated than anyone in history could ever imagine and he'll explain that there exists better technologies to handle hte issue. Then he'll declare that a wall won't fix anything.

It's his current MO. It's a matter of days, at this point.

It's fun watching President Trump realize that Candidate Trump was wrong on nearly everything. It's almost a rinse-repeat of Candidate/President Obama.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:36 am

Kath wrote:Someone will take 10 minutes and explain why that wall is almost completely useless, and in terms of ROI, completely useless. He'll then proclaim that border security is much more complicated than anyone in history could ever imagine and he'll explain that there exists better technologies to handle hte issue. Then he'll declare that a wall won't fix anything.
Nah there are already walls along certain portions of the border that are heavily trafficked, Trump is going to find some place along the border where it makes sense rebuild the current ones, to build some more or extend some, to help beef up some border checkpoints or something. The big, beautiful wall rhetoric will fall by the wayside and he will pivot to emphasizing the use of other technologies in border security though, you are bang on about that. The wall was never going to be a huge part of his border security plan, it was just a visual anchor people could latch on to that would have them think he was the toughest on border security. The ol' "outrageous opening offer before pivoting to center gambit" yet again.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:42 am

We got a prediction from Kath. Holding you to it.

p.s. I was always a "Fence" guy. How a Border Fence Would Work
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