THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:46 am

MSM is just having a splendid time chewing Bannon after Trumps remarks.

But the reality is that Bannon hasn't delivered much anything after the election win, Muslim ban isn't effective, the wall seems not to be so beautiful everywhere and healtch care bill (even if not Bannon's thing) flopped miserably. The usefulness of Bannon is Limited against the backlash he gets. And if the media can continue with the Bannon-Kushner feud line, then Bannon won't have much time to go.

The real big problem is that actually for Trump it would be essential to keep the GOP in power in the Mid-terms, as then the real difficulties start if the GOP doesn't control the House and the Senate. And there Bannon isn't going to be much helpfull, I guess.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:47 am

Kath wrote:His WH is a hot mess. We know he used to be a democrat. Now I'm actively wondering if he always was and the bloviating during the campaign was just a way to cash in on the #neverHillary movement. He's done so much 180-ing on you guys....

Interesting times.
As a good populist, say what the people want to hear. And I guess a lot of people have now gone back to other things and won't follow what Trump is actually doing.

After Syria, the Trumpists here are disappointed.

And it's just going to be 100 days,

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:50 am

What I am arguing is that there is bias in the press, what I hear you saying is that the press is just fine?

Actually I was going to post something negative about Trumps golfing and the White House moving to Maralago every weekend. :lol:
I agree Trump is a bombast, he says wild shit. The difference is, I don't take everything he says seriously, but I do take him seriously.

Obama was an absolute tool. He's arrogant and ignorant, he had no real accomplishments prior to being elected. The press not only passed by stupid shit he said, they defended him. So much so that we have an entire crop of SJW's who followed his bullshit. We still have press running out and saying 'you can't blame Islam' every month when some Hajji pulls of a planned homicide attack for the greater glory of Allah.

You have a skewed understand of my take on Obama. I rate all POTUS' on Pro's and Con's during their time in office. I've posted positives on BHO. But I admit I'm loudest on the shit I disagree with him on. Shit, a month ago I posted pros/cons/uncertain list on Trump. Where's your objective list on Trump?

I challenge you right now to give me an objective list on Trump. Pro's/Con's and Uncertain. I will update my list from a month ago and post it here as well and we will move this into a constructive discussion.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:00 am

C-Mag wrote: I challenge you right now to give me an objective list on Trump. Pro's/Con's and Uncertain. I will update my list from a month ago and post it here as well and we will move this into a constructive discussion.
It's too early for that. I see a bumbling WH that doesn't know which end is the head and which is the tail. You literally have a left hand and right hand that won't talk to each other... Bannon & Kushner.

I think he has no idea how government works and is currently taking a crash course. He can obviously learn, since he now knows that North Korea and healthcare are complicated topics and can't be fixed in a few hours. That's far more than he knew three months ago, so kudos for that.

He also looked at some sad pictures of kids and decided we need to bomb Assad. So, there's that, too.

I dunno... does he have an accomplishment that we can point to that shows he is a sound leader? He sent the bombs to Syria, which I supported, but now he's talking full on regime change? /Sigh.

Mostly right now it's a whole lot of fumbling. I honestly don't know what he believes.

Right now, for me, it's mostly a sport - watching what he says compared to what Spicer says, compared to what Tillerson says... and Kellyanne, etc. etc... and watching how the whole thing will unfold.... and it's a dramedy, right? It's very, very serious consequences but the whole story is being told by a clown.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:05 am

How the fuck are any of you surprised Trump is a liberal? Newsflash: A New York Liberal hijacked the Republican Party, you shouldn't just be coming to this realization.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:06 am

OK, get back to me when you are a little more objective. At this point in the BHO presidency I was able to find postives and negs.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:06 am

StCapps wrote:How the fuck are any of you surprised Trump is a liberal? Newsflash a New York Liberal hijacked the Republican Party, you shouldn't just be coming to this realization.
Wait, what? So you are on record saying Trump would 180 most of his positions in the first 100 days and take up Hillary's agenda? LOL. No.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:07 am

It puzzles me why people still take his words seriously, obviously they're hollow and only used to stir up more controversy while throwing red meat to his base. All that shit about knowing more than the generals, great healthcare, the best, NATO being obsolete, it's all a show, it's all political theater, just as it always is! I swear, by seizing on his daily comments and going ape shit with them, the media is the only one keeping his words relevant anymore. I just saw a clip of Don Lemon reading a Trump tweet about some Republican congressmen scoring a huge special election win, or a decisive victory or whatever, even though it was only like a 7% spread and a smaller margin than the previous election, but Lemon is pounding it into the ground that his words are a lie! Lie! LIE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P_2Q1g3OH4) I'm glad someone on the panel was able to say yo fuckstick he's cheerleading for his party, the LIE is inconsequential and trying to seize on it only shows weakness on your part. Just like people trying to may hay out of Spicer's comments the other day, instead of focusing on his justification of an apparently unconstitutional bombing campaign that may or not hinge on a false pretext, everyone is running around with their heads cut off claiming he's denying the holocaust, or smugly assert that he needs a history lesson. As if the holocaust just fuckin' slipped his mind, come on

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:08 am

C-Mag wrote:OK, get back to me when you are a little more objective. At this point in the BHO presidency I was able to find postives and negs.
Eight years of data and you admit you found positives? We're < 100 days in, Carlus, and the man has now reversed most of his positions. So, did you support his positions then or do you support them now? It doesn't seem like you can support both of his positions on the same topic. Is Nato good or bad? Is Assad good or bad? Is China good or bad?

Do you know where Trump stands on these? Are you confident in your understanding of his positions? Are you sure he won't change his mind in three days?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:10 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote:How the fuck are any of you surprised Trump is a liberal? Newsflash a New York Liberal hijacked the Republican Party, you shouldn't just be coming to this realization.
Wait, what? So you are on record saying Trump would 180 most of his positions in the first 100 days and take up Hillary's agenda? LOL. No.
I said that Trump wouldn't put America First if it meant putting himself, his legacy and/or his family second. I also repeatedly referred to him as a New York Liberal who isn't some right wing extremists by a long shot. You just weren't paying attention.
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