THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:51 pm

The oil must flow and Russia is going to be great again. Russia STRONK. Eurocucks WEAK.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:11 pm

ssu wrote:With that Rex Tillerson hearings coming, I think hopefully some Mattis and Kelly will have no troubles of actually landing to those positions.
Dude, the GOP is going to dance with the girl what brung them, and Cucks like McCain and Co ain't gonna get in the way, they've lost the room, nobody is paying any attention to the NeverTrumps now, except the liberals.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:50 pm

ssu wrote:
StCapps wrote:@ssu - I still don't see any evidence that lead the intelligence agencies to their conclusion that Russia did it. You can take their word for it if you want, until they have something aside from "just trust us" I will remain skeptical, you should too.
I actually was sceptical at first when it was just unnamed White House officials hinting at it. That reeked of election mudslinging. If it would have ended there, then it likely would have been a Clinton Spin Machine thing.

Now I just look at the big picture, which you seem not to be looking at as you have those Trump blinders on (and think that this is some conspiratorial continuation of election ranting and just about the hackings of DNC/Podesta). Not only the common statement by various intelligence services and especially the FBI saying the same after the election, but also MI6 and UK Goverment, the German BND coming up with similar statements of Russia's actions elsewhere (see for example More than just hacks: Russia's 'hybrid warfare' has been targeting western Europe for months). The Kremlin increasing it's media budget into the billions and even Putin himself commenting the elections and that the hacked emails are damning for Clinton (an extremely rare thing and unordinary thing for a foreign leader to do). But somehow that doesn't count. Oh no, it's just the sore losers, the democrats.

And then there's the point I try to make: the only thing Trump ought not to do is fucking deny and dismiss his intelligence services. He could be just silent, or make some simple comments (that I described earlier), but hell no. He has to say that they are WRONG. And that's the problem here, he just makes this worse.

To start to argue against the services is here the thing that I detest.

So you tell me about the HUGE globalist CONSPIRACY against Trump done by the intelligence sercives and the FBI. Similar stories likely to be found in some Alex Jones la-la-land hallucinations.
Colin fucking Powell testified in front of the UN that Saddam had WMDs. The CIA kept their mouth shut for about ten years before admitting they knew it wasn't true. Do not trust a word from these cock suckers. Not one fucking word.
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Post by de officiis » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:06 pm

The Emoluments Clause: Its Text, Meaning, And Application To Donald J. Trump
No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
The Left has their panties in knots and are claiming the Constitution requires Trump to put all of his corporate assets into a blind trust to avoid a conflict of interest. But this is more of a tradition than a constitutional requirement.
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de officiis wrote:The Emoluments Clause: Its Text, Meaning, And Application To Donald J. Trump
No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
The Left has their panties in knots and are claiming the Constitution requires Trump to put all of his corporate assets into a blind trust to avoid a conflict of interest. But this is more of a tradition than a constitutional requirement.
Get the popcorn. They're gonna fold.
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Post by K@th » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:15 am

Smitty-48 wrote:To paraphrase Curtis LeMay; The Russians are our adversary. Our enemy is the Lefties.
This is not a left v right fight. That's the circus part. This is a have v have-nots fight. The have on either side (L/R) are creating wedge issues to ensure we ignore the real fight.

The middle is where most Americans are. The things that we have in common are far greater than not, but the haves on either side pretend the other, insignificant issues are the real problem. They are not.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:05 am

Kath wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:To paraphrase Curtis LeMay; The Russians are our adversary. Our enemy is the Lefties.
This is not a left v right fight. That's the circus part. This is a have v have-nots fight. The have on either side (L/R) are creating wedge issues to ensure we ignore the real fight.

The middle is where most Americans are. The things that we have in common are far greater than not, but the haves on either side pretend the other, insignificant issues are the real problem. They are not.
Have v. Have-Not is an entirely Leftist paradigm, you have to be a Leftist to think in those terms, to be of the Right, is to define the struggle as Sovereignty of the Individual v. Sovereignty of the Collective, originally, the Individual was the King and the Collective was a Commune, in the contemporary, particularly American context, the Individual is the Citizen and the Collective is the Government.

I would actually assert, that most Americans are on the Right, because at the end of the day, whether you have or have not, is not the principle by which Americans determine right and wrong, but rather, how much liberty the individual citizen has from collective governance, is what determines right and wrong. In the American paradigm, more liberty for the individual is right, less liberty for the indivdual is wrong, and that is a wholly Rightist position.

Moreover, those on the Right would assert, that on the aggregate, more liberty for individuals leads to greater prosperity for the whole, and where if that is uneven, restricting liberty ostensibly to equalize, is in fact a fool's errand, which doesn't make anymore have for the have-nots in the end, and in fact, all attempts to equaize by collective force against the individual, rather makes things worse for them and all, by dragging everybody down to no good purpose.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Zlaxer » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:04 am

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizon ... 1057-story

Not to open old wounds...and not that this is going to go anywhere.....but it really really looks like Barak's birth certificate was forged...I'm guessing he was either born outside the US or that his original was lost....

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Post by de officiis » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:11 am

Zlaxer wrote:http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizon ... 1057-story

Not to open old wounds...and not that this is going to go anywhere.....but it really really looks like Barak's birth certificate was forged...I'm guessing he was either born outside the US or that his original was lost....
Isn't the question more or less moot at this point?
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Post by ssu » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:28 am

Okeefenokee wrote: Colin fucking Powell testified in front of the UN that Saddam had WMDs. The CIA kept their mouth shut for about ten years before admitting they knew it wasn't true. Do not trust a word from these cock suckers. Not one fucking word.
No, George Tenet decided to be a team player, just like Colin Powell, go with the war the White House (Cheney/Rumsfeld) wanted immediately after 9/11.

The biggest motherfucking lie there is, is the bullshit rap "That Bush got bad intel". The Valiere Plame incident tells just who there is to blame and tells a lot about the CIA personnell too. It was Scooter Libby that got convicted, then got pardoned naturally By George Bush.

(Thanks for being a "Team Player")
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Perhaps Mike Pompeo will be similar with Trump: give Trump the info what he wants or then be totally sidelined if the info is not to the President's liking.

And you know, sometimes the CIA gets it right: I remember they accurately predicted that Yugoslavia wouldn't only collapse, but get into a civil war.