Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:34 am

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: What we?

The whole country, Nick. Just because you live in an exceptional area where these companies have not bribed your state legislature (yet) to criminalize competition doesn't somehow erase the fact that the vast majority of Americans were screwed out of any viable competition years ago.
Nor does that change the fact that the only solution is to fight that monster.
There is on short cut around a bribed legislature.

When you have a monopoly that cannot realistically be broke n up, the only remedy is regulation. That's it, Nick.

These companies spent a lot of money bribing the state republicans to criminalize competition so that they would be a monopoly. Then they set out to throttling traffic from popular services in an effort to bilk those corporations for money in exchange for access to broadband customers. Those costs eventually got taken out of the consumers. The response to that was the net neutrality rule.

George W. Bush and Barrack Obama presidencies, over the course of about 12 years had battled this bullshit to try to stop them, and they kept doing it until the only remedy was the net neutrality order.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:35 am

And it's just one more fucking stupid ass thing that hands power back over to democrats down the line. This was so incredibly stupid. This is why the GOP has always been a loser since 1932.

Fuck these mammon-worshiping cunts.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:36 am

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by heydaralon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:38 am

nmoore63 wrote:
heydaralon wrote:Exactly. Internet companies do not want more options. The free market will not fix this, because to libertarians, the free market simply means having even less oversight on campaign donations and less restrictions on monopolistic practices. The government is shitty, and many of their laws fuck over average Americans, but I view them as a counterbalance to the shitty business aspect of our society. If business had free reign in our society, we would end up with something that is virtually identical to shitty gov't. Company towns and stores, scrip, pinkertons etc. How is this better?

Here is a question: If you are a business man, what is cheaper; Potentially losing millions or more in sales because competition comes to your area and makes you improve your service, or simply paying the congressmen in your area $70,000 to make it damn near impossible to set up a rival company? I'm not an econ major, but one of those choices seems like a better investment...

If the ISPs gave a flying fuck about the consumers, the free market etc, they would have gotten their shit together a decade ago. But why shake the apple cart?
Nobody wants competition. Their desire is irrelevant.
There is no solution to corrupt government fucking up the marketplace other than to eliminate the corruption.
lol, this bill isn't putting an end to corruption. It is more of the corruption that you are railing against. This is pure graft. There will always be collusion between gov't and business. This is something libertarians have never grasped. The trick is to let the shitty regulatory aspects of gov't balance out the shitty rapacious aspects of business. That is where we are best as a society. When one goes out of balance, you get really fucked up results. This free market utopia won't happen, the same way the communist utopia of total gov't oversight won't happen either.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by The Conservative » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:40 am

I love it how people are saying that the world or at least the US is going to end because part of a law got revoked... Seriously though? If that happened the US never would have been able to become what it is today if it was placed on such a precarious footing. The law revision will do little to nothing to the internet, and of those companies wish to abuse that freedom will be reigned in pretty hard because laws exist to keep abuses from happening.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:40 am

https://www.viasat.com/
https://www.hughesnet.com/
https://www.dish.com/internet/

You're welcome

Now pay up. No free ride from us rich people.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by heydaralon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:40 am

I forget, were there breadlines and purges going on with Net Neutrality? I don't remember. It didn't seem that bad. I'm glad the "market" corrected this nonexistent problem...

I'll bet if the ISPs had bribed congress even more money we would have an even "freer" market. :lol:
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by K@th » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:41 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:And it's just one more fucking stupid ass thing that hands power back over to democrats down the line. This was so incredibly stupid. This is why the GOP has always been a loser since 1932.

Fuck these mammon-worshiping cunts.
Lol - just about a year ago you were hailing the beginning of a century long Republican controlled government. You assured us the Democrats were done for good.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:42 am

Smitty-48 wrote: "Comcast is literally Hitler! There outta be a law!"
Fuckin’ A, soldier.
Outstanding.
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Copy and paste that over every chicken little post in here and the conversation flow remains the same.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:43 am

This is a disaster for Trump. Most of the people he needs to turn out in elections support net neutrality in a big way. He claims to want to put Americans first, but apparently they are second to Comcast.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... -striking/

On the eve of a pivotal vote that would deregulate the broadband industry, a fresh survey from the University of Maryland shows that large majorities of Americans — including 3 out of 4 Republicans — oppose the government's plan to repeal its net neutrality rules for Internet providers.

The results paint the picture of an electorate that is largely at odds with the GOP-led Federal Communications Commission, whose chairman, Ajit Pai, plans to vote Thursday to lift key rules for corporations such as AT&T, Comcast and Verizon. The move would permit such companies to speed up some websites, and slow down or block others, as Internet providers seek new business models in a rapidly changing media and technology environment.