Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by The Conservative » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:12 pm

ssu wrote:
Dand wrote:If the CIA wants him ousted then I want him in. What is your point? It's nothing but innuendo from the Russian conspiracy theorists.
Likely McMasters didn't know that this guy that was Flynn's pick was important to Trump.

Trump needs spinmeist... sorry, devoted and loyal people that will expose the evils of Obama and the Deep State.

Guess he will be one of your heroes.
Be careful what you wish for... It's called Deep State for a reason.
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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by Dand » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:27 pm

ssu wrote:
Dand wrote:If the CIA wants him ousted then I want him in. What is your point? It's nothing but innuendo from the Russian conspiracy theorists.
Likely McMasters didn't know that this guy that was Flynn's pick was important to Trump.

Trump needs spinmeist... sorry, devoted and loyal people that will expose the evils of Obama and the Deep State.

Guess he will be one of your heroes.
Yeah, pretty much.

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by kybkh » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:37 pm

ssu wrote:
kybkh wrote:So Russia has committed an "act of war" against the US and there isn't a single person discussing it on the news?? :think:
Far better to listen to the senate hearing, far better than just listen to some points picked up By the media. For example, on of those who give testimony also did note that the US has a habit to overreact. And said that even if Russian do these active measures, they are not 10 feet tall.
If it turns out that Donald Trump is absolved of any and all collusion and the Obama Admin is proven to have promoted this narrative in an attempt to make DJT untouchable for Liberals by sowing a seed of doubt, will you be surprised?

The narratives the Dems are saying Trump repeated, thereby weaponizing them from RT have been being discussed for years. It's the same shit many Anti-Federal Reserve and Anti-War activist have been saying since 2001.

The reason it won Trump the election this year is because its all true. The US has been a shit show run by insiders for personal profit as far as I can remember and it is easily provable. The internet has just made denying that fact impossible hence Fake News can't control what people think any more.

At the end of the day what "Russian Attacks" fans are saying is that Russia was able to promote false stories that the US Govt could not counter. Why could the US govt and MSM not counteract the false stories? Is it because Russia is so much better at cyber? prob not. Is it because Trump repeated some of the fake news that has been in the ethosphere for the last 2 decades? Nah. Is it because the CIA led coup in Iran, the Gulf of Tonkin, Wall Street Bailouts, WMDs, and If you like your doctor you can keep'em?? You bet your balls it is.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:00 pm

It also turns out that Podesta and the Clintons were getting paid handsomely by the Russians. All this shit is them gaslighting the American people in an attempt to stay out of prison, honestly.

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:06 pm

kybkh wrote:The reason it won Trump the election this year is because its all true. The US has been a shit show run by insiders for personal profit as far as I can remember and it is easily provable.
Yeah yeah, and Hillary was in reality, forget the spin, forget the accusations, forget even the email investigation, in the end, she was a lousy candidate. Period.

I get it. But for you it's like the campaign was still on. It's like this is only an election talking point.
kybkh wrote:If it turns out that Donald Trump is absolved of any and all collusion and the Obama Admin is proven to have promoted this narrative in an attempt to make DJT untouchable for Liberals by sowing a seed of doubt, will you be surprised?
No.

Do you even read what I write? Perhaps not.

But I've said again and again that even if there is at some level some "collusion", it's not a straightforward thing:

A) There being a Russian active measures campaign surely doesn't mean that Trump will be impeached.
B) There being people in the Trump campaign who have been too lax with Russians here doesn't mean that Trump will be impeached.
C) There being people in the Trump campaign who have colluded with the Russians doesn't mean that Trump will be impeached.

The Pence presidency is still quite far. But seems that even talking about a Russian information campaign is too much for you. It has to be totally fake or something. It simply didn't happen or what.
At the end of the day what "Russian Attacks" fans are saying is that Russia was able to promote false stories that the US Govt could not counter. Why could the US govt and MSM not counteract the false stories? Is it because Russia is so much better at cyber?
Thinking it's just cyber misses the point totally. It's not about tech. It's not even about the ability to hack computers. It's about using that information. And yes, the Russians are far better at it than the US. Way better. They have to use their brains as they don't have the vast resources than the US has.

I bet that the US intelligence services in general have no clue about the "pulse of the nation" in Russia, no idea how to approach Russians to influence them. Because what you focus on is terrorism, those muslim extremists. Russians don't operate with such narrow vision.

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by kybkh » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:52 pm

If RT posted an article calling Melania Trump fat no one would believe them no matter how many times DJT retweets it.

If RT posted Amy Shumer looks like a potato...

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Or that Hillary is "sick"...

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:56 pm

A potato infected with a cocktail of STDs and a fungus outbreak on the bottom, maybe.

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Post by Fife » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:05 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:A potato infected with a cocktail of STDs and a fungus outbreak on the bottom, maybe.
Wait. Wait. WAIT. Wait a minute. Are you saying that my daughter and I should not make the trip to Panera/Baskin.Robins/Taco.Bell/Starbucks after the 4-H meeting tonight?

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:32 pm

I'm just saying. The next Black Death outbreak starts at Panera.

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:41 pm

kybkh wrote: The narratives the Dems are saying Trump repeated, thereby weaponizing them from RT have been being discussed for years. It's the same shit many Anti-Federal Reserve and Anti-War activist have been saying since 2001.

The reason it won Trump the election this year is because its all true. The US has been a shit show run by insiders for personal profit as far as I can remember and it is easily provable. The internet has just made denying that fact impossible hence Fake News can't control what people think any more.

At the end of the day what "Russian Attacks" fans are saying is that Russia was able to promote false stories that the US Govt could not counter. Why could the US govt and MSM not counteract the false stories? Is it because Russia is so much better at cyber? prob not. Is it because Trump repeated some of the fake news that has been in the ethosphere for the last 2 decades? Nah. Is it because the CIA led coup in Iran, the Gulf of Tonkin, Wall Street Bailouts, WMDs, and If you like your doctor you can keep'em?? You bet your balls it is.
+1

Pretty much what I'm seeing too
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