Seattle Socialists Strangle Golden Goose

[Speaker to Animals]

I understand what you are saying. I don't think your analogies are convincing.

Okay. Maybe look at it this way.

Seattle: We need to raise taxes to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.

Seattle now: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. What will the results be? Impossible to know, really, since we've never tried this before.

This is where the wires are getting crossed.

You seem to think that I don't understand that that is how you are looking at this problem.

I have tried to explain how I view the problem, and it hasn't really gotten a lot of converts.

Some of that patented DB sarcasm, which I do always enjoy, though.

Just to summarize though:

1. I view municipal taxes on business as legal, and as nothing more than business overhead, which isn't 'theft from the rich,' since the consumer of the product is freely choosing to purchase said product, and the business is free to leave.

2. There is no silver bullet solution to the problem of homelessness. I am not convinced that the market will just sort it out, even though I understand the theory behind that argument. As such, given the very low investment cost per consumer, I think we tolerate quite a lot of risk with different experimental solutions.

At what point do you acknowledge a lot of people need to get the fuck out of the cities? There is no good solution other than that.

[DBTrek]

>Osfront

It says Stalingrad right there

Commies kill ‘em too. It’s hard to find much that capitalists and communists agree on, but the ideology of race fascism is one of those rare birds that most everyone recognizes as a terrible idea.

[TheReal_ND]

>Osfront

It says Stalingrad right there

Commies kill ‘em too. It’s hard to find much that capitalists and communists agree on, but the ideology of race fascism is one of those rare birds that most everyone recognizes as a terrible idea.

It's hard to find much that Commies and Capitalists agree on? Like supporting Russia? Censoring free speech?

[DBTrek]

It's hard to find much that Commies and Capitalists agree on? Like supporting Russia? Censoring free speech?

Supporting Russia isn’t a requirement of capitalism, and the idea of a proponent of Fascism decrying “censoring free speech” is too ridiculous to warrant a response.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Okay. Maybe look at it this way.

Seattle: We need to raise taxes to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.
Seattle: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. Result of the spend? More homeless.

Seattle now: We somehow have more homeless than before, so we're going to raise taxes again to help the homeless. What will the results be? Impossible to know, really, since we've never tried this before.

This is where the wires are getting crossed.

You seem to think that I don't understand that that is how you are looking at this problem.

I have tried to explain how I view the problem, and it hasn't really gotten a lot of converts.

Some of that patented DB sarcasm, which I do always enjoy, though.

Just to summarize though:

1. I view municipal taxes on business as legal, and as nothing more than business overhead, which isn't 'theft from the rich,' since the consumer of the product is freely choosing to purchase said product, and the business is free to leave.

2. There is no silver bullet solution to the problem of homelessness. I am not convinced that the market will just sort it out, even though I understand the theory behind that argument. As such, given the very low investment cost per consumer, I think we tolerate quite a lot of risk with different experimental solutions.

At what point do you acknowledge a lot of people need to get the fuck out of the cities? There is no good solution other than that.

I don't ever recall arguing that people should cling pointlessly to cities.

I think there are probably a lot of benefits to spreading some of the tech sector growth around.

[TheReal_ND]

It's hard to find much that Commies and Capitalists agree on? Like supporting Russia? Censoring free speech?

Supporting Russia isn’t a requirement of capitalism, and the idea of a proponent of Fascism decrying “censoring free speech” is too ridiculous to warrant a response.

We have Free Speech written into your "fascist Constitution." It is upheld by God and excepting Commies and Capitalists, everyone else.

[DBTrek]

Right-o, dude.


Anyway, that was more attention than the race fascism drivel deserved, so moving on ....

[Kath]

I have tried to explain how I view the problem, and it hasn't really gotten a lot of converts.

Agreed. Telling people they should pay more money so the government can throw it away is a very odd position to take on an issue. Not surprised people aren't cheering for that.

[TheReal_ND]

A bundle of sticks. Highly atomized individuals will not survive. That is why I say, it is far past time for White people to drop the charade of ultimate liberalism being something that is ultimately beneficial to the Capitalists (that supported, and still do, the Communists.)

Liberalism begins and ends with the White Race. Join now. We are never against you.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I have tried to explain how I view the problem, and it hasn't really gotten a lot of converts.

Agreed. Telling people they should pay more money so the government can throw it away is a very odd position to take on an issue. Not surprised people aren't cheering for that.

I can't help it if my 'takes' are just too fuckin' hot for this crowd of boring, punk-ass lolbergs.