Brexit

[Ph64]

Nothing says democratic process quite like not letting the people have a vote.

The people already voted. They voted to leave.

You keep making excuses for why "that vote doesn't count", THAT is undemocratic.
What if the next vote is still leave? Best 3 out if 5? 4 out of 7? When does it stop?

[Fife]

Nothing says democratic process quite like not letting the people have a vote.

You had a vote, genius. They want out.

No dummy -- a *real* vote.

The People demand as many votes as necessary to get to the real vote.

[Ph64]

Nothing says democratic process quite like not letting the people have a vote.

You had a vote, genius. They want out.

No dummy -- a *real* vote.

The People demand as many votes as necessary to get to the real vote.

Yes, apparently that is "democracy".

"Ignore the will of the people and keep getting them to revote until we get what we want" - 'democracy' Monty style.

[Montegriffo]

"oh bother. Somehow we just fucked up everything and have to revote. It's not because we shit all over the democratic process. It just happened."

The vast majority of the population doesn't want a revote, and 90% of the Brexiters are still certain they want to leave. (I just listened to a podcast on it.) Crashing out would be the best thing but people don't like uncertainty.

How do you know those figures are true?
Who was the podcast by?

According to all the experts, on trade and the economy, crashing out without a deal is the worst possible scenario (Bank of England, CBI etc).
The pound is on the rise since tonight's vote because the markets feel that no deal is now less likely.

No deal is the option with the most certainty.

[Speaker to Animals]

LOL

Democracy is obviously such a fucking farce on that fascistic island at this point.

[Ph64]

According to all the experts, on trade and the economy, crashing out without a deal is the worst possible scenario (Bank of England, CBI etc).
The pound is on the rise since tonight's vote because the markets feel that no deal is now less likely.

No deal is the option with the most certainty.

Really? I'm guessing former BoE head Mervyn King isn't an expert then?

[Montegriffo]

Nothing says democratic process quite like not letting the people have a vote.

You had a vote, genius. They want out.

We voted to move house without knowing what the new house was going to be like.
Now we know that the new house is worse than the one we are already in we have the right to change our minds.
Democracy didn't end on June 23rd 2016.

If people want to leave with May's deal they can vote for that.
If they want no deal they can vote for that.
If they now want to stay they can vote for that.

The vote was hardly decisive last time.
Nor did it have any legal obligation to act on it.

A vague vote on in or out with no legal authority is no reason to refuse the right of the people to have a say now with clear parameters.

[Montegriffo]

According to all the experts, on trade and the economy, crashing out without a deal is the worst possible scenario (Bank of England, CBI etc).
The pound is on the rise since tonight's vote because the markets feel that no deal is now less likely.

No deal is the option with the most certainty.

Really? I'm guessing former BoE head Mervyn King isn't an expert then?

He has less authority than the current head of the Bank of England.

[Ph64]

Now we know that the new house is worse than the one we are already in...

Mervyn seems to disagree.

I'm sure you're way more of an "expert" than the former BoE head though.

[Montegriffo]

Now we know that the new house is worse than the one we are already in...

Mervyn seems to disagree.

I'm sure you're way more of an "expert" than the former BoE head though.

The current head of the Bank of England is more relevant than the old one.
The Confederation of British Industry (CBI) also say the best possible option is to remain and no deal is the worst option.
If you want to play an experts' numbers game you will lose.