Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:28 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:In an actual shooting war, half the Europeans, led by countries like Sweden, would duck and cover and leave the Americans holding the bag, NATO is basically three of Five Eyes, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada, everybody else is optional, and as soon as the fur started to fly, you'd see it all fly apart with the Western Europeans sheltering in place, and the Anglosphere bypassing them all the way to the new NATO 1st Army headquaters on the Vistula in Warsaw, SACEUR to the forward CP, no surrender monkeys to be seen anywhere round him.

And the Russians well know it, which is why they don't give a shit about the Surrender Monkey contingent, they're only worried about Five Eyes, and its newest bestest proxy, Poland.

Poland is the new master race. It's sad to see the Germans turn into cucks and get eradicated by Muslims, but oh well.

NATO 1st Army would be like; two American Corps, a British-Canadian-Benelux Corps, and two Polish Corps, and that would be about it.

Basically everybody who was willing to chop to SACEUR no questions asked.

Mind you, that could kick some serious ass, air dominance FTW.
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Post by ssu » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:53 pm

Btw, one should remember that the Russo-Georgian war basically happened as an extension of Kavkaz-2008 excersize. Quite logical, first train, then go for it.

Here's a good report made By a Finn to Jamestown.org about the Zapad-2013 excersize with the break up of just what units took part etc.

One quote about these Zapad excersizes:
As is the case with military exercises in general, the Russian exercises are important because
they reveal where, against whom, and with what kinds of capabilities Russia is prepared to
use its military forces. So it was with Zapad-2013. Though the exercise scenario and the force
strengths submitted to the OSCE notification regime envisioned a penetration of terrorist
elements and units into Belarus, Zapad-2013’s territorial coverage, scope of operations, and
the number of units and force types involved strongly indicate that Russia was training its
forces for a large-scale conflict against a conventional enemy.
The whole text as pdf-file here:
Zapad-2013
A View From Helsinki


So the excersizes will commence as follows:
Zapad-2017 the 14th - 20th of September 2017
Aurora 2017 the 11th - 29th September 2017

The US is deploying Patriot SAMs to Sweden during the excersize.
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:53 pm

Now of course the Norwegians would be onside, but that's NORTHAG, that's a front unto itself, so Norwegians, USMC, XVIII Corps, and more British and Canadian Amphib/SOF.

But French, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, Greeks, and Turks? Yeah, ah, no, they'd take a pass and shelter in place.

Five Eyes, Benelux, Poland, and Norway, that's all there is in NATO which would be willing to chop to SACEUR no questions asked, so that's all NATO really is, come the fur actually flying.
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by Hastur » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:06 am

Is this the right place to put this?

http://www.sadanduseless.com/2017/08/ru ... more-48736
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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by kybkh » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:11 am

Clear winner.

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Post by Hastur » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:13 am

No, this:

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Post by pineapplemike » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:27 pm

Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg to cooperate on Russian investigation after 2016 election



PROBLEMATIC CONTENT

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Post by ssu » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:20 pm

pineapplemike wrote:Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg to cooperate on Russian investigation after 2016 election



PROBLEMATIC CONTENT
How Trumpsters percieve this when listening to the above:

"IT'S A H U U U G E CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUMP AND FACEBOOK IS IN IT!!!!"

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Post by clubgop » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:24 pm

ssu wrote:
pineapplemike wrote:Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg to cooperate on Russian investigation after 2016 election



PROBLEMATIC CONTENT
How Trumpsters percieve this when listening to the above:

"IT'S A H U U U G E CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUMP AND FACEBOOK IS IN IT!!!!"
I know english isn't your first language but cooperation is conspiracy with a political spin.

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Re: Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:40 pm

Nah it's just creepy looking into his eyes when I know what his political aspirations likely are. He doesn't smell like an ally to me