THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Montegriffo » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:48 am

TheReal_ND wrote:This smells like complete bullshit but if true I am going to disavow him.

The US doesn't use infrastructure pipe from anywhere east of Zelzalouraine. Or something like that. WWII hangover. That's a Polish company btw.

I have never ever seen Chinese pipe sold in any of the mills I work at. Some customers explicitly state no Chinese steel. Moot point anyway, we never stock it. Korean steel is a problem because they sell it ten cents on the dollar. Luckily USS imposes heavy tariffs on them. Again, moot point. Serious businesses, not counting BP here, want quality pipe. ASME or API standards. Those come from Lourain or USS. Lourain is another WWII holdover.

Been sitting on this for a while waiting for the climate to change....pop goes the bubble
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/02/13/a ... e-xl-steel
Story comes with added bonus of links to Russia
Believe it or not, there's a key connection to Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin, in the fight over North America's controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

One of President Donald Trump’s first actions in office was to sign an executive order on January 24 expediting the approval of the Keystone XL. Owned by TransCanada, this tar sands oil pipeline was halted by former President Barack Obama in November 2015. Trump signed another order on January 24, calling for steel for U.S. pipelines to be made in the U.S. to the “maximum extent possible,” and two days later TransCanada filed a new presidential permit application for Keystone XL with the U.S. Department of State.

Critics, such as John Kemp of Reuters, pounced on the caveat language in Trump’s steel order and noted that it appears “designed to preserve lots of wiggle-room.” In fact, a DeSmog investigation reveals that much of the steel for Keystone XL has already been manufactured and is sitting in a field in rural North Dakota.

DeSmog has uncovered that 40 percent of the steel created so far was manufactured in Canada by a subsidiary of Evraz, a company 31-percent owned by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, who is a close ally of Putin and a Trump family friend. Evraz has also actively lobbied against provisions which would mandate that Keystone XL's steel be made in the U.S.

Abramovich is described in the 2004 book Abramovich: The Billionaire from Nowhere by British journalists Dominic Midgley and Chris Hutchins as “one of the prime movers behind the establishment of the only political party that was prepared to offer its undiluted support to Putin when he fought his first presidential election in late 1999. When Putin needed a shadowy force to act against his enemies behind the scenes, it was Abramovich whom he could rely on to prove a willing co-conspirator.”

Evraz describes itself as “among the top steel producers in the world based on crude steel production of 14.3 million tonnes in 2015.”

DeSmog's findings comes as Trump is under scrutiny from Congress, U.S. intelligence agencies, and others for his personal and presidential campaign team's ties to Russia. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence concluded in January that Russian state-sponsored actors had hacked into the email databases of both the Democratic National Committee and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign in order to influence the election in favor of Trump.
Plus a little cronyism thrown in for good measure.
Ivanka Trump, the daughter of President Donald Trump, maintains her own ties to Abramovich. Ivanka’s circle of friends includes Dasha Zhukova, the wife of Abramovich.

Jake Sherman, a reporter for Politico, tweeted that Zhukova attended Trump’s presidential inauguration at the invitation of Ivanka. The two have appeared in public on several occasions, most recently during the U.S. Open tennis tournament, which Ivanka attended with her husband and top Trump aide, Jared Kushner.

Also sitting with them in the stands at the U.S. Open was Zhukova’s friend, model Karlie Kloss, who is dating Jared Kushner’s brother, Joshua Kushner. Zhukova, as it turns out, was a donor to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, giving $2,700 to the campaign and another $33,400 to the Democratic National Committee for its 2016 electoral efforts.

Zhukova's father is Alexander Zhukov, a Russian oil magnate.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:14 am

I really can't take any more winning, guys.. please stop the winning.
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Post by The Conservative » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:33 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:IMG_1686.JPG
Show me one president that ever got everything he promised passed as fast as he wanted... please name one.
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Post by Montegriffo » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:19 am

TheReal_ND wrote:https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/sites/ilr.c ... 12_FIN.pdf

That son of a bitch....
Damn Nuke, a highly glossy 40 page report, we don't all live in houses with high speed broadband you know..
It took me 10 mins of downloading to find out if you were being sarcastic or not.
table of contents
1
Introduction
2

Main Findings
4

TransCanada Will Spend
$3 to $4 Billion in the US,
Not $7 Billion as Claimed
7

KXL Will Generate 2,500-4,650
Construction Jobs
8

Most Jobs Created Will Be
Temporary and Non-Local
11

KXL Steel Manufactured Outside
the United States
15

Construction Services: Engineering/
Design/Technical/Support
17

Perryman Study Deeply Flawed
and Provides No Sound Basis for
Jobs Claims
21

Total (Direct, Indirect, and Induced)
Jobs from Keystone XL
26

KXL Will Have Minor Impact on
Unemployment Levels
27

four Ways Keystone XL Could Be
a Job Killer
35

conclusion: Employment Potential
from KXL is Little to None; Decision
should be based on other factors
Wow, now I know why Smitty was so happy about this....Making Canada Great Again
the main points in this briefing paper can be summarized as follows:
» The industry’s US jobs claims are linked to a $7 billion KXL project budget.
However, the budget for KXL that will have a bearing on US jobs figures is
dramatically lower—only around $3 to $4 billion. A lower project budget means
fewer jobs.
» The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction
jobs for two years, according to TransCanada’s own data supplied to the State
Department.
» The company’s claim that KXL will create 20,000 direct construction and
manufacturing jobs in the U.S is not substantiated.
» There is strong evidence to suggest that a large portion of the primary material
input for KXL—steel pipe—will not even be produced in the United States. A
substantial amount of pipe has already been manufactured in advance of pipeline
permit issuance.
» The industry’s claim that KXL will create 119,000 total jobs (direct, indirect, and
induced) is based on a flawed and poorly documented study commissioned by
TransCanada (The Perryman Group study). Perryman wrongly includes over $1
billion in spending and over 10,000 person-years of employment for a section
of the Keystone project in Kansas and Oklahoma that is not part of KXL and has
already been built.
» KXL will not be a major source of US jobs, nor will it play any substantial role at
all in putting Americans back to work. Even if the Perryman figures were accurate,
and all of the workers for the next phase of the project were hired immediately, the
US seasonally adjusted unemployment rate would remain at 9.1%—exactly where it
is now.
» KXL will divert Tar Sands oil now supplying Midwest refineries, so it can be sold at
higher prices to the Gulf Coast and export markets. As a result, consumers in the
Midwest could be paying 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gasoline and diesel
fuel. These additional costs (estimated to total $2–4 billion) will suppress other
spending and will therefore cost jobs.
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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:23 am

Are we Great yet?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:32 am

Well you're still a fag so no.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:37 am

TheReal_ND wrote:Well you're still a fag so no.
How's things at the mill? Kinda quiet?
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:39 am

We've picked up since the election as a matter of fact. It's normal during election cycles to slow down though the last one timed with the oil glut was really bad.

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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:18 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:Well you're still a fag so no.
How's things at the mill? Kinda quiet?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Rough.
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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