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Speaker to Animals
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:52 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Agreed. Now explain to me how in the hell RyanCare gives any less to the corporations.
Dude, did you see the polls? RyanCare would have demolished the republicans in the midterms. The American people
hated that fucking bill.
Trump was behaving quite the dumbass for even backing it at all. That cost him capital and probably plenty of support in the process.
Then it's pretty reasonable to state that both parties are equally pathetic on this issue, and aren't going to solve it, is it not?
You are still thinking in the bogus left-right paradigm.
The division cuts across the political party lines.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:58 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:
Dude, did you see the polls? RyanCare would have demolished the republicans in the midterms. The American people hated that fucking bill.
Trump was behaving quite the dumbass for even backing it at all. That cost him capital and probably plenty of support in the process.
Then it's pretty reasonable to state that both parties are equally pathetic on this issue, and aren't going to solve it, is it not?
You are still thinking in the bogus left-right paradigm.
The division cuts across the political party lines.
Well which is it then? Is it left-right, or Dem-Rep? Which one is on that electoral map that we're all so proud of around here? How would you care to define the terms?
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by C-Mag » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:19 pm
StCapps wrote:Can't blame the Republicans for the Democrats not passing a good health care bill, any concessions the Democrats were dumb enough to try and give the Republicans didn't win them a single Republican vote. The pussying out of universal health care is entirely the Democrats fault.
Exactly.............. Dems created this mess.
Where are the Democrat plans to fix this? They own it, it was their bill.
Remember Pelosi and Obama, you have to pass it to see what's in it, it will be the best thing ever.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:24 pm
I do not agree. Trump is going to own the fallout from Obamacare imploding. Trump is the president. Trump is the leader of the republican party. Trump should damned well have understood that Ryan's bill was kryptonite for republican House members and utterly despised by a majority of the American people.
Trump has to be the leader here. Trump cannot act like Obama and try to shift blame all over the fucking place. We elected him to be a leader and he needs to act like it. No excuses for this shit. Nada.
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by TheReal_ND » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:27 pm
Everybody sees through the hot potato game. Even his biggest supporters like me.
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by C-Mag » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:37 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:I do not agree. Trump is going to own the fallout from Obamacare imploding. Trump is the president. Trump is the leader of the republican party. Trump should damned well have understood that Ryan's bill was kryptonite for republican House members and utterly despised by a majority of the American people.
Trump has to be the leader here. Trump cannot act like Obama and try to shift blame all over the fucking place. We elected him to be a leader and he needs to act like it. No excuses for this shit. Nada.
I get where you are coming from, but being responsible for being the leader of the country is one thing. Fixing Obamacare may not be the only answer here.
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by StCapps » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:42 pm
C-Mag wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:I do not agree. Trump is going to own the fallout from Obamacare imploding. Trump is the president. Trump is the leader of the republican party. Trump should damned well have understood that Ryan's bill was kryptonite for republican House members and utterly despised by a majority of the American people.
Trump has to be the leader here. Trump cannot act like Obama and try to shift blame all over the fucking place. We elected him to be a leader and he needs to act like it. No excuses for this shit. Nada.
I get where you are coming from, but being responsible for being the leader of the country is one thing. Fixing Obamacare may not be the only answer here.
Trump doesn't deserve blame for what happened under Obama's watch, he deserves blame for what happened under his watch. Obamacare imploding isn't Trump's fault, but not replacing it with a better plan is on him.
*yip*
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:48 pm
He also made the exact same mistake Obama made. Obama decided to let Congress craft the bill from scratch and promised to push for it, expending all his political capital on it. Except telling the House or Senate to craft the bill is synonymous with asking the insurance lobby to write the fucking thing. After Obama blew his wad pushing that travesty through Congress and signing it into law, his entire presidency was crippled. He never really recovered from it.
Now Trump almost did the exact same thing. Blaming the FreedomCaucus for killing it when they actually just saved his presidency and probably the republican control of Congress.
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by TheReal_ND » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm
Oh how Tyan is being funded by a democratic platform. Yeah. I linked that already. It's no secret with that cuck. In fact I think this goes back a ways.