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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:04 pm
C-Mag wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:C-Mag wrote:
Yep, Sean 'GOP' O'Hannity and Lew Dobbs just raked Ryan and the GOP over the coals for not having a plan to do this successfully immediately after Trump won. It was a pretty good take down the GOP Establishment and RINOs
NPR said the same thing. I think we're all amazed by how incompetent they look on this.
Dem's needed any kind of victory, I get that............ I'm kind of happy the waterheads on the short bus got one, I was feeling sorry for them
And yeah, not a lot of arguments on the incompetency of the Ryan gang. BUT..................................................
This blazing wreckage was caused by the chosen one, BHO and the panting and drooling idiot Dems, with a little NeoCon help. Dem's own the Obamacare Hindenberg, let's be careful not to project ownership of the Health Care nightmare
I'm gonna need a clear explanation of why you think Obamacare - aborted mess that it is - is worse than what we had before. I hate the individual mandate, and I think it's insane to expect insurance companies to be responsible in any way. But it was even worse before, with people literally dying for want of money. Pre-existing conditions were a fucking nightmare for millions.
Anyway, I can't lay Obamacare entirely on Obama, or even the dems. It was Romneys plan, and a LOT of things were squeezed out of the deal making by Republicans hauling pork back to their districts.
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Speaker to Animals
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:26 pm
Medicare for all is pretty much the only viable solution at this point. Keep the private insurers and extend Medicare to people who can't get insurance. We should all be discussing how to fund that, not this other stuff.
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by StCapps » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:26 pm
Can't blame the Republicans for the Democrats not passing a good health care bill, any concessions the Democrats were dumb enough to try and give the Republicans didn't win them a single Republican vote. The pussying out of universal health care is entirely the Democrats fault.
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*yip*
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by TheReal_ND » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:27 pm
Wew lad. We are here.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:31 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wew lad. We are here.
That's pretty bad.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:32 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:Medicare for all is pretty much the only viable solution at this point. Keep the private insurers and extend Medicare to people who can't get insurance. We should all be discussing how to fund that, not this other stuff.
Am I the only one boggled with cognitive dissonance that the Right is suddenly not terrified of socialism?
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:34 pm
As I explained before, the division right now has nothing to do with the bogus "left-right" paradigm.
Hell, most of the Alt-Right are national socialists!
My own congressman leads this FreedomWorks caucus and he keeps doing everything possible to perpetuate the VA hospital system on veterans.
Most of the democratic party works for the interests of corporations rather than socialism, and it was the democratic party who scuttled the possibility of a single-payer system in 2008.
This contrived division does not describe our situation or help us in any way.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:37 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:As I explained before, the division right now has nothing to do with the bogus "left-right" paradigm.
Hell, most of the Alt-Right are national socialists!
My own congressman leads this FreedomWorks caucus and he keeps doing everything possible to perpetuate the VA hospital system on veterans.
Most of the democratic party works for the interests of corporations rather than socialism, and it was the democratic party who scuttled the possibility of a single-payer system in 2008.
This contrived division does not describe our situation or help us in any way.
Agreed. Now explain to me how in the hell RyanCare gives any less to the corporations.
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by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:38 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:As I explained before, the division right now has nothing to do with the bogus "left-right" paradigm.
Hell, most of the Alt-Right are national socialists!
My own congressman leads this FreedomWorks caucus and he keeps doing everything possible to perpetuate the VA hospital system on veterans.
Most of the democratic party works for the interests of corporations rather than socialism, and it was the democratic party who scuttled the possibility of a single-payer system in 2008.
This contrived division does not describe our situation or help us in any way.
Agreed. Now explain to me how in the hell RyanCare gives any less to the corporations.
Dude, did you see the polls? RyanCare would have demolished the republicans in the midterms. The American people
hated that fucking bill.
Trump was behaving quite the dumbass for even backing it at all. That cost him capital and probably plenty of support in the process.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:46 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:As I explained before, the division right now has nothing to do with the bogus "left-right" paradigm.
Hell, most of the Alt-Right are national socialists!
My own congressman leads this FreedomWorks caucus and he keeps doing everything possible to perpetuate the VA hospital system on veterans.
Most of the democratic party works for the interests of corporations rather than socialism, and it was the democratic party who scuttled the possibility of a single-payer system in 2008.
This contrived division does not describe our situation or help us in any way.
Agreed. Now explain to me how in the hell RyanCare gives any less to the corporations.
Dude, did you see the polls? RyanCare would have demolished the republicans in the midterms. The American people
hated that fucking bill.
Trump was behaving quite the dumbass for even backing it at all. That cost him capital and probably plenty of support in the process.
Then it's pretty reasonable to state that both parties are equally pathetic on this issue, and aren't going to solve it, is it not?