Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:32 am

Anglin is probably going to fund his own registrar along with Spencer btw

Maybe a wealthy donor or two

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:33 am

DBTrek wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote: anti-trust laws didn't stop Google and cloudfront from stealing a domain from somebody they didn't like. Nothing happened there.
Didn’t that happen under Net Neutrality?
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So what makes you think anti-trust laws would stop an ISP from throttling traffic to websites they find offensive?
The multiple times it happened pre-2015.

No, genius. That is what triggered the net neutrality policy.

Anti-trust laws are not going to stop these abuses.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by heydaralon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:36 am

How does giving even more power to ISP's which have effective local monopolies jive with Libertarian free market ideals? I can't figure that one out. The inadvertent effect of no net neutrality is a de facto censorship of ideas that the gov't (with collusion via ISPs) which also runs square in the face of freedom of expression. As Speaker pointed out, all data is equal, especially when a consumer pays for it every month. Libertarians are big on choice, especially consumer choice, and Net Neutrality revocation flies in the face of that. Some real mental gymnastics going on here...
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:37 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:

No, genius. That is what triggered the net neutrality policy.

Anti-trust laws are not going to stop these abuses.
Then prepare to return to the pre 2015 internet dystopia, clown.
Try not to do anything too drastic during this time of great panic.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:38 am

Lots of people wanting to party like it's 1999 all over again, forever and ever.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by heydaralon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:38 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:And back to the question you insufficiently answered..

anti-trust laws didn't stop Google and cloudfront from stealing a domain from somebody they didn't like. Nothing happened there.

So what makes you think anti-trust laws would stop an ISP from throttling traffic to websites they find offensive? We already see Google removing them from the first pages of search results. We see social media companies blocking content on their platforms. But we don't see some nebulous anti-trust law stepping in to stop those practices.
Anti-Trust laws historically have been far better at breaking up Unions than Big Business. I forget the case that set this precendent. E C Knight Sugar Company or some shit. In the past, the robber barons used those laws to shut down people who complained and attempted to leverage better working conditions. Makes me think those laws were designed that way on purpose tbh...
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:39 am

Kool-aid all around to the newly minted internet Antifa members.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by nmoore63 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:39 am

heydaralon wrote:How does giving even more power to ISP's which have effective local monopolies jive with Libertarian free market ideals? I can't figure that one out. The inadvertent effect of no net neutrality is a de facto censorship of ideas that the gov't (with collusion via ISPs) which also runs square in the face of freedom of expression. As Speaker pointed out, all data is equal, especially when a consumer pays for it every month. Libertarians are big on choice, especially consumer choice, and Net Neutrality revocation flies in the face of that. Some real mental gymnastics going on here...
All data is not equal.
You don't have to live under monopolies.
You don't understand how libertarians think with respect to the rest.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by heydaralon » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:41 am

I would be less appalled by this decision if there was actually a free market going on, and people had several dozen ISPs to choose from in their area. But we know that's not the case. The same ISPs that eagerly repealed this will lobby congress to prevent any local competition in their cartel zones. If you think Comcast gives a flying fuck about delivering a good product, and cares about free markets and its customers needs, I have some beads to trade Manhattan for.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:41 am

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