The Left Does not Reason

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:58 pm

I think the main reason The Left is so gun-control is because they see this violent army just across the street, and they fear it because they know their agenda will eventually provoke a reaction.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:14 pm

jbird4049 wrote:There is no "Leadership' on the Left" or on the right for that matter calling for such violence. Certainly not the ones on the television.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:38 pm

Martin Hash wrote:I think the main reason The Left is so gun-control is because they see this violent army just across the street, and they fear it because they know their agenda will eventually provoke a reaction.
I think there is not agenda of that kind. Too often, there is no thought to it, just ahhhhh, the evuhls gunz! It is also a great way for politicians to stir up the base and get more contributions, and votes.

It is also a means of identifying your tribe. As a means of saying if you are a liberal, or a conservative, or a Democrat, or a Republican, this is what you must believe. A way of controlling the conversation, of acquiring power, by squeezing everyone into a few small acceptable boxes, as if we are all androids to be so programmed.

I have been ID as a conservative because I support gun rights even though I am very liberal. My support for equal rights, and equal justice for all, has made me a squishy liberal too others.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:40 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:There is no "Leadership' on the Left" or on the right for that matter calling for such violence. Certainly not the ones on the television.
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Keep telling yourself that kiddo. You're doing your masters proud!
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by C-Mag » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:47 pm

That's an awfully tidy way to escape responsibility............ no leaders pfft
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:09 pm

jbird4049 wrote:Keep telling yourself that kiddo. You're doing your masters proud!
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:14 pm

You really can't save these people. They are too far gone.
UC Berkeley Student Paper Publishes Five Op-Eds Defending Violent Riots

Nisa Dang demanded critics “check their privilege” before condemning the riots, blaming the violence on the appearance of the police. “I don’t care what Breitbart article or liberal bullshit listicle you’ve read, or what your experiences in white suburbia might have taught you — police are violent agents of the state.”

“These were not acts of violence. They were acts of self defense,” wrote queer activist and former columnist Neil Lawrence. “And to Yiannopoulos and all your friends who invited you and hosted you and defended your ‘right’ to speak: I recommend you learn your lesson. Our shields are raised against you. No one will protect us? We will protect ourselves.”

“Yiannopoulos and his supporters have a track record of actively targeting people in their hate speech, and the ideology they peddle perpetuates ideas that urgently endanger members of our community,” argued Josh Hardman. “In short: The principle of freedom of speech should not be extended to envelop freedom of hate speech, for the unchecked normalization of hate speech will have real consequences.”

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:17 pm

Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any

Violent resistance matters. Riots can lead to major change

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-ben ... 16186.html
No one on the left condones violence, eh?
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:07 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
This is one of the most frightening things I've read today. I'm wondering if you have actually given this any actual thought. Let's think this through.

Yeah, this the natural escalation that will happen. You don't expect people to give up their civil rights to a bunch of thugs without standing up and be willing to get bloody do you ?

This is why I keep calling out the 'Leadership' on the Left............................ and EVERYONE on the Left should be putting down this type of violence. The Left has to fix this, Milo supporters can't, all they can do is defend themselves. The Lefts 'Leadership' loves this violence, that's what their actions and words say.
Falling this false left/right paradigm is not wise. Most people are peaceful, and most of the political leadership in addition, regardless of their supposed party, is too busy fellating the monied class. There is no "Leadership' on the Left" or on the right for that matter calling for such violence. Certainly not the ones on the television.

There are a lot of angry, fearful, people across the political spectrum who are primed for violence,and there are smaller groups eager to exploit that. Who seek glory, or meaning, and who want to cause the explosion that most of us fear to get it.

That is the desire of some of the anarchists who had their fun in Berkeley. They don't give a damn to most protestors wanting a peaceful protest. Some of the militia movement too would be happy to see the war start. So the violent anarchists is doing their work too.

Don't do their dirty work. Doing Doc's plan would just make them all so very, very happy.
Okeefenokee wrote:
Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any

Violent resistance matters. Riots can lead to major change

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-ben ... 16186.html
No one on the left condones violence, eh?
Don't you just love, love, love them moving goalposts!

Anyways, anyone advocating political violence is probably a moron. Sometimes there is no choice, but for now we have choices.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:11 pm

jbird4049 wrote:There is no "Leadership' on the Left" or on the right for that matter calling for such violence. Certainly not the ones on the television.
I didn't move any goalposts.

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UC Berkeley Student Paper Publishes Five Op-Eds Defending Violent Riots

Nisa Dang demanded critics “check their privilege” before condemning the riots, blaming the violence on the appearance of the police. “I don’t care what Breitbart article or liberal bullshit listicle you’ve read, or what your experiences in white suburbia might have taught you — police are violent agents of the state.”

“These were not acts of violence. They were acts of self defense,” wrote queer activist and former columnist Neil Lawrence. “And to Yiannopoulos and all your friends who invited you and hosted you and defended your ‘right’ to speak: I recommend you learn your lesson. Our shields are raised against you. No one will protect us? We will protect ourselves.”

“Yiannopoulos and his supporters have a track record of actively targeting people in their hate speech, and the ideology they peddle perpetuates ideas that urgently endanger members of our community,” argued Josh Hardman. “In short: The principle of freedom of speech should not be extended to envelop freedom of hate speech, for the unchecked normalization of hate speech will have real consequences.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/uc-berke ... ent-riots/
Sorry Liberals, A Violent Response To Trump Is As Logical As Any

Violent resistance matters. Riots can lead to major change

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-ben ... 16186.html
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