Ok. So stand United so the government can disarm us. That's the message? For someone that doesn't support government violence you sure fantasize about it a lot.GrumpyCatFace wrote:The only reason there is a "left" and "right" is to divide and conquer. And it's working flawlessly.clubgop wrote:So piss off the left and the right that your ticket to success?GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Of course not. They would never be ordered to do so, under such obvious pretense.
It would be to stop "insurgents" and "domestic terrorism", or "looters", or "dissidents funded by Russia", or whatever other Bad Guy label the government wants to use. "Defend our communities" goes the cry. "Protect America from Evil!". Boom go the headshots and drone strikes.
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You have made the critical mistake of overestimating the Nat gaurd.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Small town PD could stop a hundred "insurgents" with limited backup from the nat guard.TheReal_ND wrote:No. Millions of people won't do anything. It only takes a hundred and then a thousand. If the conditions are right hundreds of thousands will be forced to join in. Just how ignorant are you? Read SIEGEGrumpyCatFace wrote:
Ok, so we're going to imagine that millions of gun owners somehow organize themselves into a resistance over some vague issue that gets their asses ready to die for Freedom, but the government doesn't notice it coming, doesn't absorb/deflect/derail the message during all that time, and then all of those guys turn into a stealthy guerilla force with supply lines that still aren't stopped by the local PD, and then just keep "resisting" (shooting cops and nat guard) until the government surrenders to them?
That's really what you see happening here?
Nat guard could stop a small army with no backup at all. That is exactly what they're there for.
I think that is the biggest mistake you could make if you really believe you can ride out a societal wide collapse.
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They'll never 'disarm' you. And it wouldn't matter much if they did, in terms of their control.clubgop wrote:Ok. So stand United so the government can disarm us. That's the message?GrumpyCatFace wrote:The only reason there is a "left" and "right" is to divide and conquer. And it's working flawlessly.clubgop wrote:
So piss off the left and the right that your ticket to success?
I happen to believe that there's absolutely no point in owning more than a shotgun and hunting rifle. Others feel that they need an arsenal to fight off the boogeyman. But there is no stopping the boogeyman. He is legion, and he is well trained and armed to deal with your boomsticks.
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The boogeyman is a pussy who can't stand even light casualties anymore, you're so wrong. No stopping the boogeyman my ass, he gets stopped all the time by less.GrumpyCatFace wrote:They'll never 'disarm' you. And it wouldn't matter much if they did, in terms of their control.clubgop wrote:Ok. So stand United so the government can disarm us. That's the message?GrumpyCatFace wrote:
The only reason there is a "left" and "right" is to divide and conquer. And it's working flawlessly.
I happen to believe that there's absolutely no point in owning more than a shotgun and hunting rifle. Others feel that they need an arsenal to fight off the boogeyman. But there is no stopping the boogeyman. He is legion, and he is well trained and armed to deal with your boomsticks.
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National Guard, naw they barely could handle unarmed hippies on a college campus now they are supposed to friends and neighbors and family for gun control? Right!TheReal_ND wrote:You have made the critical mistake of overestimating the Nat gaurd.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Small town PD could stop a hundred "insurgents" with limited backup from the nat guard.TheReal_ND wrote:
No. Millions of people won't do anything. It only takes a hundred and then a thousand. If the conditions are right hundreds of thousands will be forced to join in. Just how ignorant are you? Read SIEGE
Nat guard could stop a small army with no backup at all. That is exactly what they're there for.
I think that is the biggest mistake you could make if you really believe you can ride out a societal wide collapse.
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I don't have the slightest idea if I could 'ride it out'. Best I can do is try to give the kids a fighting chance.TheReal_ND wrote:You have made the critical mistake of overestimating the Nat gaurd.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Small town PD could stop a hundred "insurgents" with limited backup from the nat guard.TheReal_ND wrote:
No. Millions of people won't do anything. It only takes a hundred and then a thousand. If the conditions are right hundreds of thousands will be forced to join in. Just how ignorant are you? Read SIEGE
Nat guard could stop a small army with no backup at all. That is exactly what they're there for.
I think that is the biggest mistake you could make if you really believe you can ride out a societal wide collapse.
I do know that the nat guard is a full-fledged military force, and has been deployed to the Middle East for a decade, so one can assume that they have some competent killers in the ranks, and more than enough equipment to deal with Joe Sixpack.
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You're the one imagining some kind of civil war over "gun control". I'm telling you that it'll never happen, and most certainly not under those terms.clubgop wrote:National Guard, naw they barely could handle unarmed hippies on a college campus now they are supposed to friends and neighbors and family for gun control? Right!TheReal_ND wrote:You have made the critical mistake of overestimating the Nat gaurd.GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Small town PD could stop a hundred "insurgents" with limited backup from the nat guard.
Nat guard could stop a small army with no backup at all. That is exactly what they're there for.
I think that is the biggest mistake you could make if you really believe you can ride out a societal wide collapse.
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The myth of the all powerful, can't be stopped, US Empire, that is what GCF is basing his argument on. They will never give up? They give up all the time, under far less duress.
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You can most definitely rack up a Kill:Death ratio of 2 or 3 to 1 before they take you down. But unless the entire government has been stricken with syphilis, you'll never have more than a couple of buddies lined up with you. Simple as that.StCapps wrote:The myth of the all powerful can't be stopped US Empire has been greatly exaggerated.
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The government has been syphilitic for a while, they don't have the resolve to defeat all but the smallest insurgencies, even then they take a while and it's a slog. This they will put it down quickly and suffer no real consequences, that's wishful thinking on your part.GrumpyCatFace wrote:You can most definitely rack up a Kill:Death ratio of 2 or 3 to 1 before they take you down. But unless the entire government has been stricken with syphilis, you'll never have more than a couple of buddies lined up with you. Simple as that.StCapps wrote:The myth of the all powerful can't be stopped US Empire has been greatly exaggerated.
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