BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

[Smitty-48]

That second window being broke is curious, there's no audio which I've heard that definitively sounds like two shooters firing at the same time, but that don't mean they weren't taking turns, the biggest thing that makes two shooters seem plausible, it's not the audio, it's just the number of guns involved, it's way more guns than one guy could use, way more than one guy would have any use for, the sheer number of guns is like an arsernal meant for at least two shooters in the end.

One man alone, I can see bringing a few guns, but 23 guns? That's a lot of guns, for just one guy.

[TheReal_ND]

He could have just been a crazy boomer I guess. The number of guns is one of the bigger red flags though. Plus the fifty or so at his house iirc

Vegas Press Conference
Live Feed https://youtu.be/BraSP-_zUFQ

Previos Press Conference https://youtu.be/603C9zCbOu4

Live thread on /pol/
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/144688495

[Smitty-48]

Well it's like the bump stocks and just shooting until the guns all overheat, would that really be a plan? Even with a bump stock, you don't shoot until the weapon overheats, you fire bursts, and let the barrel cool in between, but maybe you thought that more people would be shooting these guns, and when they didn't show up, you just try to do it yourself, firing as many rounds as you can as fast as you can, trying to make up for a crew which was supposed to be there but then wasn't there after all.

Did that crew just chicken out? Or were they federal agents in some sort of Fast n' Furious gig gone wrong? Like, maybe this was a sting, that just went off the rails when they lost control of the package? Maybe he figured out that it was the Feds, and decided to beat them to the punch somehow, maybe they were all gonna meet up somewhere, then the Feds were going to arrest him there, but he got spooked and decided to go straight to the hotel room with all the guns and do it ad hoc instead?

[TheReal_ND]

Well whatever happened, it seems clear from this press conference they have no intention of telling us a motive. If I had to speculate he was
A) nuts
B) a black ops gun runner turned jihadi. This actually makes sense if IS is claiming him and a lot of people dismiss that but if what I heard is true, a lady wrote a recent article about how many terror acts IS claims and she covered about 50 something where only 3 had no connection to them.
Or C) he was setup to look like the shooter during a gun deal

[Smitty-48]

Doesn't seem like IS, if he was IS, he wouldn't make any bones about it, if he was IS, then he would claim the kills for IS, who flips to IS and then doesn't leave the IS calling card? That doesn't sound right.

[TheReal_ND]

From what I heard on a podcast he was streaming outside the country.

[Smitty-48]

Nah, not IS, y'all just grasping at straws to try to hang it on the mooslambs there it seems, if it's IS, the IS flag is in the room, hanging on the wall, and there's an IS video to go with it, with him praising Allah n' shit.

No sign of IS here, quite the opposite, there's a total lack of any IS signature in this, not their MO at all.

[TheReal_ND]

Well he did have a flip gf but I actually don't know her religious affiliation. If he really did stream out of the country that could be the IS propaganda video but you would have expected them to release it by now unless somehow it's being blocked. I'm not taking it off the table but there is a lack of evidence other than IS claiming him. I wouldn't put it past an aging boomer. That's the other thing too. His age is way outside the norm for spree killers. Rich old guys tend not to get very worked up.

[Smitty-48]

I'll take it off the table until there is some sign of an IS signature involved, this doesn't fit the IS M.O. at all, nobody flips to IS, and then doesn't claim to be IS, that makes no sense, that's not how Jihadis roll.

IS doesn't do anything anonymously, it's not a win for them, unless they get their colours out there flying, loud and proud, they wouldn't go to the trouble, if they couldn't claim the credit with credibility, they would make sure that there was no doubt that it was them.

[Smitty-48]

Now, some sort of Fast n' Furious sting gone wrong, and now they're panicking and trying to contain and sweep it under the rug? OK, that's sounding somewhat plausible.

A whole crew of guys who were supposed to be there, but then only one or two showed up? I can see it, I don't have the evidence, but the signature is there, the 23 guns and two broken windows, and only one guy in the dock for it; does seem a bit fishy.