God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by TheOneX » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:21 am
Did you not read the question at the top?
State your point.
Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.

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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:11 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

State your point.
Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by clubgop » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:28 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

State your point.
Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
That is where you are wrong. Because they are one party monopolies they have to give the illusion of choice and because liberals are a fractious bunch the need is increased. So they present that illusion, it is election theatre and it is performative. And like everything else performative people like dirty dick eat it right up. It boost turnout during statewide elections and dirty dick democrats fall for it. And our own Dirty dick dutifully defends democrats. Look at the results of these elections. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was. Undercover hack bitches being discovered as dishonest dirty dick democrats who would have ever guessed?

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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by The Conservative » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:33 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

State your point.
Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by TheOneX » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:03 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:11 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am


Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by TheOneX » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:05 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:33 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:58 am


Every place that has been trying it, or is going to try it is a liberal stronghold or general clusterfuck.
I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
Fine. Socialist, leftists, Fascists, Nazis. Name them whatever your black heart wants. They aren't good for this country.
Exactly, when you call them liberal that associates them with good ideas when they very clearly do not have good ideas anymore.

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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by clubgop » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:25 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:05 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:33 pm
TheOneX wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm


I do not think this list says what you think it is. There is a correlation between where this is tried and where "liberal" (we really need to take this word back) strongholds, but I do not think that is the causation. The causation is "liberal" people are more open to change, where conservative areas prefer to stick with tradition. That is why you only see "liberal" cities testing out this kind of voting system. Not because it gives them some kind of advantage.
Fine. Socialist, leftists, Fascists, Nazis. Name them whatever your black heart wants. They aren't good for this country.
Exactly, when you call them liberal that associates them with good ideas when they very clearly do not have good ideas anymore.
Maybe to you, you make that association. That association is not universal. The left being a fractious bunch does contain some liberals using that catchall term may not reflect the left as a whole but I would contend that the overton window of the American left is centered on the Liberal section.

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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:19 am

Liberals, such as myself, Rob Rubin, Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, Scott Adams, etc.; no longer belong to the Democrat Party, but we didn’t change, they did.
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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by clubgop » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:02 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:27 pm
PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:04 pm


No, because it’s always a ‘wasted vote’, or ‘helping the other side’.
Do you have any evidence that ranked choice will end up with 3rd party candidates getting more votes than either of the main party candidates?
What kind of ‘evidence’ would you accept, given that we’ve never done it?

Best available would be the fact that third-party candidates always poll significantly higher than the final tallies.
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Re: God help us all: Ranked Choice Voting will be on the ballot in Massachusetts this November

Post by clubgop » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:04 pm

PartyOf5 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:52 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:27 pm
PartyOf5 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:06 pm
Do you have any evidence that ranked choice will end up with 3rd party candidates getting more votes than either of the main party candidates?
What kind of ‘evidence’ would you accept, given that we’ve never done it?

Best available would be the fact that third-party candidates always poll significantly higher than the final tallies.
So you have zero evidence. Yet you are convinced that 3rd party candidates would benefit from a system you do not even understand.
I am taking this challenge I am going off of TC'S list and looking at the election results and how they are reported in MSM. Since Dirty dick can't be bothered to do the work I will.