Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

[DBTrek]

Your arguments thus far are:

1. Women only marry for money
2. Women will always abandon men who become disabled
3. Most men are blue-pilled as fucked in America
4. Most men are emotionally invested in being the saviors of womenkind (white knights).

Every single one of those is emotionally opinion-based. There are obvious facts refuting each, but the facts don’t matter when the argument is based on emotion. I might say here are X examples of women clearly not marrying for money, but that would not sway you. I could say here are all the wives living with disabled husbands, but that would not sway you. I could point out that American men lean republican (red) not Democrat (blue), but that would not sway you.

No amount of evidence or counter argument will sway you, as we’ve seen from years of interactions. So while my observation may not be flattering, it is not ad hom or a personal attack. It’s simply my analysis of the situation drawn from countless interactions.

[Speaker to Animals]

Now you engaged in a straw man fallacy.

Is this fallacy list handbook day?




instead of strategically rephrasing my argument, just quote an entire post and respond to that. Thanks. LOL

[PartyOf5]

Y’all are trying to convince an outlier who apparently suffered a massive trauma with logic. That’s not going to work. Only therapy can turn StA from his chosen path at this point. The outlier will never believe they’re an outlier, even when everyone they interact with tells them “no, relationships generally aren’t like that at all”.

/shrug

i am hardly the outlier and personal attacks will not counter my argument either.

Using MHF as a sample I'd say you are an outlier when it comes to your relationship experience. You are at the far end of the spectrum when it comes to that. It doesn't make your views or opinions invalid. It is important though to realize that most of us do not see woman and relationships the way you do.

[MilSpecs]

And how did you both limit your hours and still move upward?

By being efficient at work. Working more hours than someone else doesn't automatically mean you got more done. Good employers notice what you get done, not how much time your spend at work.

+10
This is an outstanding point.
We rarely focus on efficiency and the benefits of efficiency anymore.

The military for example is becoming less efficient all the time because they are spending too much time trying to figure out how to integrate women and lunatics into the military or how to avoid law suits rather than focusing on their primary jobs of killing people and breaking things.

A lot of us have billable hours, or are expected to be on call for long periods of time, or simply are expected to do more than can be done in a 40 hour week. If I get more efficient and do my work faster, I’ll be given more to do because we bill for my work.

[Speaker to Animals]

Y’all are trying to convince an outlier who apparently suffered a massive trauma with logic. That’s not going to work. Only therapy can turn StA from his chosen path at this point. The outlier will never believe they’re an outlier, even when everyone they interact with tells them “no, relationships generally aren’t like that at all”.

/shrug

i am hardly the outlier and personal attacks will not counter my argument either.

Using MHF as a sample I'd say you are an outlier when it comes to your relationship experience. You are at the far end of the spectrum when it comes to that. It doesn't make your views or opinions invalid. It is important though to realize that most of us do not see woman and relationships the way you do.

You would be surprised, actually. Just because men do not feel like putting up with the personal attacks does not imply they do not think something similar.

Also there is a very wide chasm between what I actually argue and what the white knights accuse me of arguing. It is important to recognize that, in the mystery funhouse world of blue-pilled MHF members, gender equality is called "misogyny".

[DBTrek]

A lot of us have billable hours, or are expected to be on call for long periods of time, or simply are expected to do more than can be done in a 40 hour week. If I get more efficient and do my work faster, I’ll be given more to do because we bill for my work.

Leftist always got some excuse for being lazy asses.


“But if I do my job well people will expect that from me all the time!!!”

[DBTrek]

Also there is a very wide chasm between what I actually argue and what the white knights accuse me of arguing. It is important to recognize that, in the mystery funhouse world of blue-pilled MHF members, gender equality is called "misogyny".

Pulled your arguments directly from this thread we’re all reading.

Does anyone besides StA feel that I represented his arguments unfairly?

[PartyOf5]

Face time doesn’t count at your job?

I don't need to work 60 hours a week to get face time. I work in IT. To most of us face time just means less time spent getting actual work done. That doesn't mean I hide in corner all day. I have enough meeting and conference calls with others, it's just that I don't waste time chatting.

In some fields face time and networking with others is more important. That's why I chose IT. I feel more satisfaction with the work I do than if I spent 8 hours a day in meetings and then came back to my office not able to figure out how to send a document to the printer.

[Speaker to Animals]

Also there is a very wide chasm between what I actually argue and what the white knights accuse me of arguing. It is important to recognize that, in the mystery funhouse world of blue-pilled MHF members, gender equality is called "misogyny".

Pulled your arguments directly from this thread we’re all reading.

Does anyone besides StA feel that I represented his arguments unfairly?

Quote the whole post and respond to it. LOL

Fallacy Day cannot be every day for you.

[C-Mag]

By being efficient at work. Working more hours than someone else doesn't automatically mean you got more done. Good employers notice what you get done, not how much time your spend at work.

+10
This is an outstanding point.
We rarely focus on efficiency and the benefits of efficiency anymore.

The military for example is becoming less efficient all the time because they are spending too much time trying to figure out how to integrate women and lunatics into the military or how to avoid law suits rather than focusing on their primary jobs of killing people and breaking things.

A lot of us have billable hours, or are expected to be on call for long periods of time, or simply are expected to do more than can be done in a 40 hour week. If I get more efficient and do my work faster, I’ll be given more to do because we bill for my work.

I work billable hours too. You may need to have a discussion with your employer.