Terror in Toronto

[Speaker to Animals]

Not really. They cannot get anything. It's a product of our degenerate culture combined with female hypergamy.

These guys are mostly physically unattractive and weak. What compounds the problem is that they also lack resources to even become a beta provider.

Most single women hold out for a guy with a solid career and lots of income, or the potential to earn it. That is what they want to marry, and by those guys I am talking about a pretty small percentage of men here.

Beyond that, they are more than willing to put out for casual sex or short-term relationships with a somewhat larger percentage of us.

It's those guys who do not exist in either group who are TFL.

This is part of what I meant when I argued this feminist society offers no place for men. I'd argue I have the best position in group B, and that still is not a great deal for us. Being a cucked husband is, in my opinion, the worst, but a lot of the TFL guys do not see it that way.

Complex societies emerged because males agreed to kill off the alpha (we really do not have those any longer), and institute some form of marriage in which each contributing male has a good chance of mating with a woman, and the other males will keep her from cucking him into raising other men's offspring. Insomuch as we allow women to pursue their base nature, or each other to do so, we work towards destroying the very thing that makes even complex society possible, much less civilization.

Civilization is built, sustained, and defended by men. If a huge percentage of males have absolutely no stake in society, watch out.

[DBTrek]

Competitions have losers.

We only hear the losers opinions now because the internet is a free-for-all. Before, we just recognized bitter losers for what they were and went about our biz. Didn’t have to hear their shit unless it was Thanksgiving and they were a relative. Now their shit is on blast 24/7 - but the basics haven’t changed.

Same losers they were before, just louder.

[Speaker to Animals]

Anytime you want to actually debate with what people actually argue..

Fucking waste of time and LED light that you are

[DBTrek]

Wasn’t even addressing you, dude. Go fight with Jedi some more.

[Speaker to Animals]

The problem is thus:

The way the social dynamic exists now for singles, women are holding out for a high-earning male to marry. Which means most of them are in a perpetual holding pattern because their criteria is by default a small percentage of men for all of the women, and only a small percentage of women actually marry such men. In the meantime, they are busy riding the cock carousel. That's me. The ridiculous dick pony amongst millions of others going round and round.

Then there are the guys who cannot even become a dick pony. They are sexually frustrated and that frustration is bound to translate into serious psychological problems sooner or later, possibly dangerously so.

Then those women in the perpetual holding pattern realize they are going to hit the wall and they marry up with the highest-earning betas they can find. That guy is a beta provider who was himself probably a dick pony.

TFL guys do not even factor in there.

This is a shitty deal for men in general.

Men competing for the most attractive women is a good thing. But when most women are only marrying a few men, and having casual sex in lieu of marriage with another fraction of men, while leaving a significant group of men without sex or marriage, there's a big problem in society. It doesn't make women happy either.

Beta provider
Dick pony
True Force Loneliness truck of peace driver


Those are shitty relationship choices.

[DrYouth]

Most single women that I am interested in hold out for a guy with a solid career and lots of income, or the potential to earn it. That is what they want to marry, and by those guys I am talking about a pretty small percentage of men here.

FTFY

[Speaker to Animals]

Most single women that I am interested in hold out for a guy with a solid career and lots of income, or the potential to earn it. That is what they want to marry, and by those guys I am talking about a pretty small percentage of men here.

FTFY

Actually not true.

I know single mothers with kids to multiple fathers who believe they will eventually attract a decent man with a good job to provide for them and raise their children with other men. It does not even strike them as odd that they believe or expect this to happen.

Most of them are like this.

[Speaker to Animals]

Furthermore, the overall statistics support me. Women overwhelmingly marry men who earn more than them, and one of the greatest factors in divorce is the man earning less than the woman, or getting laid off.

Women by their nature only see men as their occupation (ability to provide resources).

This is one of their faults. I know. We are only allowed to talk about male faults, because women dindu nuffin, but these things are true.

[DrYouth]

Well we are instrumental by nature...

Women want a partner who will take the pressure off them as a breadwinner, hunter, home defender... so that they can raise children...

Men want a woman who can bear children that will be reasonably competitive... (boobs to feed them, hips to deliver them... and a nice smile)

I guess we are all slaves to our DNA at some level.... men and women alike...

So if you want a nice mate... earn some bread, work out and don't sit around whining about it....

[Speaker to Animals]

Well we are instrumental by nature...

Women want a partner who will take the pressure off them as a breadwinner, hunter, home defender... so that they can raise children...

Men want a woman who can bear children that will be reasonably competitive... (boobs to feed them, hips to deliver them... and a nice smile)

I guess we are all slaves to our DNA at some level.... men and women alike...

So if you want a nice mate... earn some bread, work out and don't sit around whining about it....

Those things are fine.

What is happening now is the worst of female nature subverting that.

The idea that women are the same as men is the problem a lot of you need to get over. Women would likely be just fine married up as harems to only a small percentage of men. Then civilization would be fucked.

The other side of the problem is that most single women today are not worth marrying. They are ruined. Who wants to marry a whore? Raise your hands if you want to be a guest in your home until your wife whose been with a hundred or more men kicks you to the curb and cleans you out of your savings..