Public Employees Pensions Will Be To The 2nd Civil War What Slavery Was To The First

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Post by Fife » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:31 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
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Speaker to Animals wrote:People are going to move out of those places fast as fuck when taxes go up any higher with absolutely no government services in return.

I can't even imagine how fucked Cook county taxes are now. Ten years ago it was a fucking nightmare for me. I was paying over 7 grand in taxes on a small condo. I pay about 100 times less in taxes for a similar condo (actually much newer).
Just think about how fortunate you are. It's hard not to feel sorry for our yankee cousins who just don't know the difference.

We are really trying to starve the life out of the school system here. Ashevillians are creeping further outwards, though. It's getting tough.

They are like, "do you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater??", and I am like, "we are trying to drown the baby, lady."
Are you inside Buncombe County? It might be a good idea to at least get across the county line and still enjoy what there is left of their services while available.

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Re: Public Employees Pensions Will Be To The 2nd Civil War What Slavery Was To The First

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:33 pm

Fife wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fife wrote:
Just think about how fortunate you are. It's hard not to feel sorry for our yankee cousins who just don't know the difference.

We are really trying to starve the life out of the school system here. Ashevillians are creeping further outwards, though. It's getting tough.

They are like, "do you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater??", and I am like, "we are trying to drown the baby, lady."
Are you inside Buncombe County? It might be a good idea to at least get across the county line and still enjoy what there is left of their services while available.

Hells no. Taxes are almost fifty percent higher over there.

The good counties are Henderson and Transylvania.

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Post by Fife » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:44 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fife wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

We are really trying to starve the life out of the school system here. Ashevillians are creeping further outwards, though. It's getting tough.

They are like, "do you want to throw out the baby with the bathwater??", and I am like, "we are trying to drown the baby, lady."
Are you inside Buncombe County? It might be a good idea to at least get across the county line and still enjoy what there is left of their services while available.

Hells no. Taxes are almost fifty percent higher over there.

The good counties are Henderson and Transylvania.

Good man. I think I've related the story here (or on the DCF, not sure on either, though) of my UT classmate who grew up on a dairy farm in Buncombe and then returned there to get elected to the county commission (or local equivalent). I don't know if he's figured out a way to off-load his family farm and legacy to the lunatics in that county, but he was working on it. I haven't talked with him in a while, need to check in on him now that I think about it.

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Re: Public Employees Pensions Will Be To The 2nd Civil War What Slavery Was To The First

Post by MilSpecs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:16 pm

Fife wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:People are going to move out of those places fast as fuck when taxes go up any higher with absolutely no government services in return.

I can't even imagine how fucked Cook county taxes are now. Ten years ago it was a fucking nightmare for me. I was paying over 7 grand in taxes on a small condo. I pay about 100 times less in taxes for a similar condo (actually much newer).
Just think about how fortunate you are. It's hard not to feel sorry for our yankee cousins who just don't know the difference.
You pay for the amenities you want, either in your taxes or after your taxes. What we're seeing in the northeast now is a crossover from "what we expect to pay to get a higher quality of life" to "more than people in other parts of the country pay to get the same quality of life." It is going to get a lot worse, though. In NJ, the state just quietly let a cost constraint on property taxes lapse. The first police contract to be negotiated in each town is going to bankrupt those towns, faster than it would have happened otherwise.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:18 pm

My county is mainly served by parochial schools. We do just fine. There is a school district, but you don't want your kids going there.

We also have a charter school. They have chickens and stuff. I think they plan to add some farming for the little ones.

I guarantee you that the kids around here get a better education than most of the kids in the Chicago area. The best district, 211, is total garbage compared to one of the parochial schools here.

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Post by GloryofGreece » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:28 pm

Why the hell someone would want to live in and around super populated areas is beyond me. Especially the corridor between DC and Boston. Unless your making 10s of millions fuck that. Bad thing about living in Virginia are all the transplants from up North. Its like please stay the fuck in NY,NJ, PE etc. etc. And of course all the counties surround DC are fucked and have been for a long time and now all the counties that are only 1 county away from those are fucked. Cost of living is ridiculous.
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Post by MilSpecs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:31 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:My county is mainly served by parochial schools. We do just fine. There is a school district, but you don't want your kids going there.

We also have a charter school. They have chickens and stuff. I think they plan to add some farming for the little ones.

I guarantee you that the kids around here get a better education than most of the kids in the Chicago area. The best district, 211, is total garbage compared to one of the parochial schools here.
So the people in your county pay for private school. Add that cost to the taxes and you get closer to the real cost to live there.
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Re: Public Employees Pensions Will Be To The 2nd Civil War What Slavery Was To The First

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:33 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:My county is mainly served by parochial schools. We do just fine. There is a school district, but you don't want your kids going there.

We also have a charter school. They have chickens and stuff. I think they plan to add some farming for the little ones.

I guarantee you that the kids around here get a better education than most of the kids in the Chicago area. The best district, 211, is total garbage compared to one of the parochial schools here.
So the people in your county pay for private school. Add that cost to the taxes and you get closer to the real cost to live there.

Well, no.

Subtract about $6,500 from the taxes on a small condo.

School tuition for the better schools here are around $6,000.

Take the $500 dollars you saved by not having to pay for a potemkin school and buy yourself some nice shoes, or whatever makes you happy.

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Post by MilSpecs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:44 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:Why the hell someone would want to live in and around super populated areas is beyond me. Especially the corridor between DC and Boston. Unless your making 10s of millions fuck that. Bad thing about living in Virginia are all the transplants from up North. Its like please stay the fuck in NY,NJ, PE etc. etc. And of course all the counties surround DC are fucked and have been for a long time and now all the counties that are only 1 county away from those are fucked. Cost of living is ridiculous.
That is everywhere nice, because a high standard of living costs money.
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