The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Hastur » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:34 pm

A pity no one told the East Germans that walls and troops were useless in guarding borders.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:35 pm

No walls, great for the environment
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:36 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

So what happens when the drone detects foreign nationals attempting to illegally cross our border?
Call over an ICE unit, from whatever town is closest. The Predator would probably spot them 10 miles before they even cross.

As opposed to posting thousands of Army units, which will inevitably lead to a massacre at some point? I dunno - maybe I'm just thinking too much. Not enough feelz for border control.

There are maybe five thousand or so actual ICE and Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border that are able to intercept and detain invaders. For almost 2,000 miles, and much of that is desert wilderness areas. Give that border an area of about ten miles north along the entire span and you have 20,000 square miles to patrol.

It's actually a job of the Army to defend the border. I think we will be just fine sticking with the Army's actual job.
It's the Army's job to defend the border against another army. Have you learned nothing from the entire Middle Eastern Adventure to Nowhere?

You actually think it's a good idea to use the military to stop civilians with kids, that just crossed a desert, running from drug gangs, risking their lives to get a shitty job, and eat crap from Americans? What happens when the first one throws a water jug at a soldier?

Bunch of dead bodies in the middle of nowhere, and we look like fucking idiots once again. All to keep Americans in those cushy fruit-picking jobs, making min wage.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:37 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Call over an ICE unit, from whatever town is closest. The Predator would probably spot them 10 miles before they even cross.

As opposed to posting thousands of Army units, which will inevitably lead to a massacre at some point? I dunno - maybe I'm just thinking too much. Not enough feelz for border control.

There are maybe five thousand or so actual ICE and Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border that are able to intercept and detain invaders. For almost 2,000 miles, and much of that is desert wilderness areas. Give that border an area of about ten miles north along the entire span and you have 20,000 square miles to patrol.

It's actually a job of the Army to defend the border. I think we will be just fine sticking with the Army's actual job.
It's the Army's job to defend the border against another army. Have you learned nothing from the entire Middle Eastern Adventure to Nowhere?

You actually think it's a good idea to use the military to stop civilians with kids, that just crossed a border, running from drug gangs, risking their lives to get a shitty job, and eat crap from Americans? What happens when the first one throws a water jug at a soldier?

Bunch of dead bodies in the middle of nowhere, and we look like fucking idiots once again. All to keep Americans in those cushy fruit-picking jobs, making min wage.

#Winning

Bullshit.

It is the job of the Army to defend the border, period. You don't have a fucking clue about the military.

Never you worry your pretty little head about things the small class of military families will have to take care of. We are used to cleaning up your mess.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:38 pm

Hastur wrote:A pity no one told the East Germans that walls and troops were useless in guarding borders.

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Are you willing to gun down Mexicans trying to get here?

Plant a mine field?

Sic some German Shepherds on a group of kids in the desert?
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:38 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

There are maybe five thousand or so actual ICE and Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border that are able to intercept and detain invaders. For almost 2,000 miles, and much of that is desert wilderness areas. Give that border an area of about ten miles north along the entire span and you have 20,000 square miles to patrol.

It's actually a job of the Army to defend the border. I think we will be just fine sticking with the Army's actual job.
It's the Army's job to defend the border against another army. Have you learned nothing from the entire Middle Eastern Adventure to Nowhere?

You actually think it's a good idea to use the military to stop civilians with kids, that just crossed a border, running from drug gangs, risking their lives to get a shitty job, and eat crap from Americans? What happens when the first one throws a water jug at a soldier?

Bunch of dead bodies in the middle of nowhere, and we look like fucking idiots once again. All to keep Americans in those cushy fruit-picking jobs, making min wage.

#Winning

Bullshit.

It is the job of the Army to defend the border, period. You don't have a fucking clue about the military.

Never you worry your pretty little head about things the small class of military families will have to take care of. We are used to cleaning up your mess.
You couldn't possibly sound more retarded right now.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:41 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
It's the Army's job to defend the border against another army. Have you learned nothing from the entire Middle Eastern Adventure to Nowhere?

You actually think it's a good idea to use the military to stop civilians with kids, that just crossed a border, running from drug gangs, risking their lives to get a shitty job, and eat crap from Americans? What happens when the first one throws a water jug at a soldier?

Bunch of dead bodies in the middle of nowhere, and we look like fucking idiots once again. All to keep Americans in those cushy fruit-picking jobs, making min wage.

#Winning

Bullshit.

It is the job of the Army to defend the border, period. You don't have a fucking clue about the military.

Never you worry your pretty little head about things the small class of military families will have to take care of. We are used to cleaning up your mess.
You couldn't possibly sound more retarded right now.

I am sure it sounds retarded to you that it is the responsibility of the US Army to defend the border. That doesn't make it actually retarded. Go back to your ZeroHedge tirades about the stock market imploding any day now. You really have no fucking idea what you are talking about here.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:45 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Bullshit.

It is the job of the Army to defend the border, period. You don't have a fucking clue about the military.

Never you worry your pretty little head about things the small class of military families will have to take care of. We are used to cleaning up your mess.
You couldn't possibly sound more retarded right now.

I am sure it sounds retarded to you that it is the responsibility of the US Army to defend the border. That doesn't make it actually retarded. Go back to your ZeroHedge tirades about the stock market imploding any day now. You really have no fucking idea what you are talking about here.
Yes. The only people qualified to direct the military are the military themselves. They should be a separate government to themselves.

Also, the only ones that should discuss what to do with them are the military, and their families.

And there has been no issue with using the military against civilians in every “war” we’ve ever fought, and I’m an ignorant fool for pointing it out.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:48 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Hastur wrote:A pity no one told the East Germans that walls and troops were useless in guarding borders.
Are you willing to gun down Mexicans trying to get here?

Plant a mine field?

Sic some German Shepherds on a group of kids in the desert?
I've recommended a mine field many times. Most cost effective way to control a border.

Mexicans get to choose,
a. be brave and maybe die getting to US
b. be brave and maybe die fixing their own fucking country.
c. legally immigrate
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by K@th » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:51 pm

What has SCOTUS said about Article IV being applicable to illegal immigration? I know some would like it to be considered an invasion, but only one opinion matters.

Have they ever chimed in (or refused to chime in) on this topic?
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