Hawaii Missile Threat: False Alarm

[nmoore63]

I'm not one to punish people for honest mistakes incited by systemic failings, the correct response is to modify the system and improve their training, punishing people for honest mistakes is counterproductive, simply breeds evermore dysfunction into the system, which, when you're talking about systems related to nuclear weapons, that can really come back to bite you.

"refusing to cooperate" is not an "honest mistake"

[DBTrek]

You’re assuming honest mistakes in lieu of testimony, because the offender is stonewalling the investigation. If you falsely launch a public missile warning, then refuse to explain why, your clearly not qualified to hold a position of public trust, nor draw a paycheck funded by the public you terrified then stonewalled.
/shrug

[The Conservative]

I'm not one to punish people for honest mistakes incited by systemic failings, the correct response is to modify the system and improve their training, punishing people for honest mistakes is counterproductive, simply breeds evermore dysfunction into the system, which, when you're talking about systems related to nuclear weapons, that can really come back to bite you.

An honest mistake is one thing, but when they blame Trump for not acting fast enough for something he was not even responsible for, and because their own governor couldn't get their act together... yeah, someone's head needs to roll.

[C-Mag]

So what would be the theory here.

This guy said Fuck it, I'm going to push the button.

I don't get why you do this unless your a little wacked out

[SuburbanFarmer]

Maybe he got himself a lawyer and the lawyer told him to keep his mouth shut. If the government is coming to "investigate", keeping your mouth shut until they show their cards is advisable.

He wouldn’t need a lawyer in the private sector because his incompetent, public-endangering ass would’ve been fired.

But you know ... public unions.

Well if the system was poorly designed and/or the employees were inadequately trained, then punishing them is counterproductive if you need the system to work, because if you crucify subordinates for making an honest mistake in a bad set up, then in the future, they'll be too spooked to make a decision either way.

Frankly, when you're talking about systems related to ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons, that's really not a job for civilians at all, but if you are going to use civilians, you still need to take a military approach for an inherently military mission.

I was kind of shocked to learn that any state-level government was responsible for warning people of this... Then I remembered that we probably wouldn't get any warning at all.

[Smitty-48]

I'm not one to punish people for honest mistakes incited by systemic failings, the correct response is to modify the system and improve their training, punishing people for honest mistakes is counterproductive, simply breeds evermore dysfunction into the system, which, when you're talking about systems related to nuclear weapons, that can really come back to bite you.

An honest mistake is one thing, but when they blame Trump for not acting fast enough for something he was not even responsible for, and because their own governor couldn't get their act together... yeah, someone's head needs to roll.

Ah yes, so it's really a tit for tat partisan witch hunt, who knew?

This is why I say that nuclear deterrence is not assurance, the American public are not rational actors, and this is likely what will cause the nuclear war in the fog of war at the brink; rational arbitrage be damned.

[DBTrek]

If it was a simple mistake, why not tell the investigators?

[Smitty-48]

If it was a simple mistake, why not tell the investigators?

The real purpose, particularly as TC has implied, is a tit for tat partisan witch hunt, in that environment, they are looking to get you in a jackpot, so you'd be a fool to talk to them until they show their cards, no different than if you were dealing with the cops who were looking to catch you in a jackpot.

You talk the cops when they come to "investigate" you? Not me, talk to my lawyer.

[DBTrek]

When your argument rests on Radom shit TC injects into the conversation you may as well pack it in and go home.

[Smitty-48]

The jails are full of chumps who in good faith thought that they were just assisting the "investigation" folks, never talk to the cops, let your lawyer do the talking.