Daniel Shaver shooting

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:54 pm

Fife wrote: You're just being obtuse.

:shock:

What if the POV video/audio had been a regular citizen's actions and not a cop's actions? Assume the citizen was in the right to intially investigate the same reported threat to protect himself. What's the difference between the two scenarios?
:lol:

Imagine the POV was Joe Dirt aiming and AR-15 down a hotel hallway because he decided to respond to a SWAT call about a random gun-waver? Well - to play your absurd little game I imagine Joe Dirt would be put before a jury of his peers on murder charges. Kinda like the cop.
And after that they might charge him with impersonating an officer.
And then they might charge him with pointing guns at people in hotel hallways.
And then they might charge him with trespass.
And then they might charge him with ... you know what? This whole exercise is kinda silly and pointless.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:59 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fife wrote: You're just being obtuse.

:shock:

What if the POV video/audio had been a regular citizen's actions and not a cop's actions? Assume the citizen was in the right to intially investigate the same reported threat to protect himself. What's the difference between the two scenarios?
:lol:

Imagine the POV was Joe Dirt aiming and AR-15 down a hotel hallway because he decided to respond to a SWAT call about a random gun-waver? Well - to play your absurd little game I imagine Joe Dirt would be put before a jury of his peers on murder charges. Kinda like the cop.
And after that they might charge him with impersonating an officer.
And then they might charge him with pointing guns at people in hotel hallways.
And then they might charge him with trespass.
And then they might charge him with ... you know what? This whole exercise is kinda silly and pointless.
I was joking, a little, earlier about you being willfully obtuse. Now you're just playing dumb, and violating the first rule of comedy. Meh.

Anyway, skip all that shit.

Let's put it this way: all things being equal, what right to violence does a cop have that a private citizen does not?

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:01 pm

nmoore63 wrote:Aren’t I supposed to be like looting a Nike town by now?
BREAK SHIT IN MESA

Is Moore Furniture in safe condition this afternoon? Are you in need of extra security?

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:05 pm

Fife wrote:
I was joking, a little, earlier about you being willfully obtuse. Now you're just playing dumb, and violating the first rule of comedy. Meh.

Anyway, skip all that shit.

Let's put it this way: all things being equal, what right to violence does a cop have that a private citizen does not?
Political science 101 could probably answer that one for you, man. Same right a tax collecter has to take 26% of your income, but a right you don’t have to take 26% ofanyone else’s income.

But by all means, if you think there’s no difference between you and a cop I invite you to put flashing lights and a siren on your car and blow through every red light in town.
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:11 pm

DBTrek wrote:But by all means, if you think there’s no difference between you and a cop I invite you to put flashing lights and a siren on your car and blow through every red light in town.
At least we are boiling things down to the nut-cut.

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:13 pm

No.
Let’s switch.
How about you waste time answering a bunch of inane questions from me as I steadily retreat from an indefensible position?

But first I have to come up with an indefensible position.
Gimme a sec.
(Aka you’re beat bro, quit wasting my time)
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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:20 pm

DBTrek wrote:No.
Let’s switch.
How about you waste time answering a bunch of inane questions from me as I steadily retreat from an indefensible position?

But first I have to come up with an indefensible position.
Gimme a sec.
(Aka you’re beat bro, quit wasting my time)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Describe the difference in a cop's right to use violence in self-defense and your right to use violence in self-defense.

If "there is none," you can just post "none."

That should save you a lot of your time, none of which I am interested in wasting.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:22 pm

*If*


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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:27 pm

I graciously accept your surrender.

Carry on, sir.

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Re: Daniel Shaver shooting

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:30 pm

There was no surrender, only a challenge issued for you to prove your argument by putting a siren and lights on your car and then blast through red traffic lights.
A challenge which you fled like a mangy cur with Tail tucked firmly between your legs.
The record stands.

I appreciate your desire to vacate the thread ASAP tho. Completely understandable given your position.
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