identity politics are destroying the democratic party

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:37 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are in very unique media market situation.
Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
apeman wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Whites are a minority in parts of California and the racism against whites, with the weaponization of the state therein, goes on.



"This is not a board of education meeting; this is a brown power meeting"

Wake the fuck up, people.
I hate identity politics, hate it, but the Constitution and reasonable arguments are not gonna resolve this, so I'm not sure what to do. I basically just avoid it completely IRL, which isn't going to resolve it either.

You have to adopt it yourself now. There is no undoing what the left and their neocon/libertarian enablers have done to the demographics of our nation.

Even if you passed a constitutional amendment that separates race and state, these people would still vote as a bloc against your interests in other ways.
I see a potential problem with joining the culture war. Which side does my house join?
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:05 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
apeman wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:So what do you want to shoot back with? The US Constitution
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Yes, let's hit them with the Constitution!
Disparate impact in United States labor law refers to practices in employment, housing, and other areas that adversely affect one group of people of a protected characteristic more than another, even though rules applied by employers or landlords are formally neutral. Although the protected classes vary by statute, most federal civil rights laws protect based on race, color, religion, national origin, and sex as protected traits, and some laws include disability status and other traits as well.
^ This is Constitutional.

Fire departments had to change their facially neutral screening exams because the results were not sufficiently diverse. The Constitution.

Asian students have to ace the SATs to even be considered for the Ivy Leagues. The Constitution.

Now, if we actually read the Constitution to mean what it plainly says, well then, I think we could "shoot back" with the Constitution.
I am fine with culling some bs additions. I meant the the most commonly known and cited stuff. Freedom of religion, speech, associations etc...
Hwen said cull.
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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Fife » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:03 pm

Can "my cull pile is pretty small, bro" be far behind? :goteam: :drunk:

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:09 pm

New York City
Chicago
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle


Let's start with those. Let them go to become city-states within a wider American confederation so that they can govern themselves as they see fit. Encourage the lefties to migrate to those cities before some cut-off date. After the cut-off date, if you live in those cities, then you are citizens of those cities rather than US citizens. American citizenship will relate to the wider confederation of territories and city-states (PR could be among them) whereas US citizenship would entail living in the parts of America that still FAITHFULLY follow the US Constitution.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:25 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:New York City
Chicago
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle


Let's start with those. Let them go to become city-states within a wider American confederation so that they can govern themselves as they see fit. Encourage the lefties to migrate to those cities before some cut-off date. After the cut-off date, if you live in those cities, then you are citizens of those cities rather than US citizens. American citizenship will relate to the wider confederation of territories and city-states (PR could be among them) whereas US citizenship would entail living in the parts of America that still FAITHFULLY follow the US Constitution.
Everyone was down with some wars that spit on it....
nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are in very unique media market situation.
Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
What do you mean? is Bill Gates Conan in your imagination or something? What are you talking about?

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by nmoore63 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:18 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are in very unique media market situation.
Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
What do you mean? is Bill Gates Conan in your imagination or something? What are you talking about?
The invention of the printing press caused the enlightenment. Caused the 30 years war, Caused the French Revolution.
Many, many people died as a result of the power structure being unable to control communication and thought.

The Internet.
The New Media.

Change will happen. History says it will likely not be peaceful.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:03 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: Every other communications revolution involved mass bloodshed. I see no reason why this one should be different.
What do you mean? is Bill Gates Conan in your imagination or something? What are you talking about?
The invention of the printing press caused the enlightenment. Caused the 30 years war, Caused the French Revolution.
Many, many people died as a result of the power structure being unable to control communication and thought.

The Internet.
The New Media.

Change will happen. History says it will likely not be peaceful.
The people are way different than the ones going at each other after the printing press was invented.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by nmoore63 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:21 pm

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
What do you mean? is Bill Gates Conan in your imagination or something? What are you talking about?
The invention of the printing press caused the enlightenment. Caused the 30 years war, Caused the French Revolution.
Many, many people died as a result of the power structure being unable to control communication and thought.

The Internet.
The New Media.

Change will happen. History says it will likely not be peaceful.
The people are way different than the ones going at each other after the printing press was invented.
Nope.

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Re: identity politics are destroying the democratic party

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:06 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: The invention of the printing press caused the enlightenment. Caused the 30 years war, Caused the French Revolution.
Many, many people died as a result of the power structure being unable to control communication and thought.

The Internet.
The New Media.

Change will happen. History says it will likely not be peaceful.
The people are way different than the ones going at each other after the printing press was invented.
Nope.
There is no mass literacy and instant communication?