Rich Higgins NSC Memo - POTUS & POLITICAL WARFARE

[Smitty-48]

The person he seems to be most criticizing in this sort of manifesto thing, is actually Trump, he's basically saying that Trump is not getting it done, in terms of defending the Administration from this "Maoist/Marxist" hostile campaign, the introduction says that if Trump doesn't get going here, the Administration is going to "implode", and in the conclusion he is calling for Trump to start "driving events" as opposed to be "driven by them", so it actually seem to be a plea to the President to pull his head out of his ass and step his game up.

[Calculus Man]

Gaslighting.

Whatever, dude.

Ooh, using a catchphrase to dismiss an argument without bothering to explain. Classy. You gonna call me a racist or a white supremacist next?

Your argument is literally dismissing other people's argument as being "crazy", when we know these things are happening. That's what gaslighting means.

I am not the one dismissing anything. I am identifying what you are doing for what it is. Instead of just saying "you guys are crazy and it's all in your heads", maybe address the fact that quite a lot of us see this now. Either a lot of people are "crazy", or you are plain wrong.

No, I called the memo cuckoo, because it is. That does not mean the Deep State revelations themselves are cuckoo. The memo is obviously going to be ineffective because of its paranoid tone. It presents no new information, and it is destined to convince nobody. All while actually harming the president it claims to support. CUCK-CUCK-CUCKOO!

I did not say that people who believe the memo are crazy, which you would know if you read my conversation with Hash.

You are just dismissing me with your bizarro-SJW tactics, as you do to anyone who disagrees with you.

[Calculus Man]

The person he seems to be most criticizing in his sort of manifesto thing, is actually Trump, he's basically saying that Trump is not getting it done, in terms of defending the Administration from this "Maoist/Marxist" hostile campaign, the introduction says that if Trump doesn't get going here, the Administration is going to "implode", and in the conclusion he is calling for Trump to start "driving events" as opposed to be "driven by them", so it actually seem to be a plea to the President to pull his head out of his ass and step his game up.

Exactly. It makes the President look ineffective, and does nothing to expose the Deep State.

Therefore, Cuckoo!

[Smitty-48]

The person he seems to be most criticizing in his sort of manifesto thing, is actually Trump, he's basically saying that Trump is not getting it done, in terms of defending the Administration from this "Maoist/Marxist" hostile campaign, the introduction says that if Trump doesn't get going here, the Administration is going to "implode", and in the conclusion he is calling for Trump to start "driving events" as opposed to be "driven by them", so it actually seem to be a plea to the President to pull his head out of his ass and step his game up.

Exactly. It makes the President look ineffective, and does nothing to expose the Deep State.

Therefore, Cuckoo!

Well, in fairness, a Deep State is in fact able to severely impede the effectiveness of any rogue elements, that's kind of why you call them the Deep State, and with one as well funded and deeply entrenched as the Washington National Security Consensus, you really need to be on your game, so even if it wasn't cuckoo to go all ranting manifesto about it, it was still dumb, basically just making life easy for the Deep State, as they have you hauled off to the loony bin for being a loony, the guy just served himself up on a platter.

You gotta pick your spots, you don't just go charging right into the teeth of the Deep State, you've got to lie in wait and look for oppotunities to slip things by them, they are indeed powerful, and even if insurging against them, hey diddle diddle straight up the middle is not an effective tactic.

[Calculus Man]

Oh, to be sure. In fact, that's one of my main complaints about the memo.

What's the point of presenting us with information we already have?

Maybe StA needed confirmation that the Deep State exists, but I did not.

If someone can explain what this memo accomplished, other than confirming what we already knew and making the President look bad, please illuminate me.

Otherwise, I will continue to characterize the memo as cuckoo.

[Smitty-48]

It's almost like the guy is a false flag plant working for the Deep State, because he made it sound cuckoo in effect, even if it wasn't cuckoo in spirit, like, in broad strokes, we all know how the Washington National Security Consensus works and we all know that Trump & Co, which to me is really Roger Stone & Co, are being resisted by the WNSC, all hands on deck, but this guy coming out with his ranting manifesto, he's not helping, unless the real objective was to aid the WNSC in discrediting their opponents that is.

[TheReal_ND]

It came from the deep state didn't it?

[Smitty-48]

Well, if I put myself in the shoes of somebody who was truly out to protect the President, and I knew this guy was about to disseminate this memo? I would be like "oh no you fuckin' don't" and I would fire his ass off the NSC before he could, because that memo is just ammo for the Presidents opponents, of course they're going to be able to spin that as being kookery, anybody who is not playing smart, anybody who is freelancing and disseminating ranting manifestos which have not been vetted, you gotta get rid of those people, before they have a chance to blow themselves up.

[Calculus Man]

Well fuck, now Smitty just supported MY paranoid fantasy...

[TheReal_ND]

Implying half of the IC isn't sick of Obongo.

The other half are true believers. Make no mistake; when Obongo did his speach to the CIA the assembled crowd wanted to believe in the liberal agenda.