Secession

[Ex-California]

The article says your state regulators dismissed the challenge when it was determined California would have to pay for the improvements, and the fedeal agency simply backed them up.

We're just trying to make up for all those federal dollars that we give to the rest of you people.

[Okeefenokee]

Citizens brought up dangers to the State of California and the Feds 12 years ago
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/o ... years-ago/

In the comments section, it almost immediately devolves into a game of it "the other party did! the liberal/conservatives are all bad/at fault!!"

Some days, the urge for alchohol is strong in me.

Not really the issue. The issue is that it's a lot easier to find funds to create big new structures, and rarely enough to maintain them. Building big new infrastructure is sexy, maintaining them is not.

I knew this shit was going to come out. This is a nation wide problem for us. What happens is the repairs are identified, but then usually put on a deferred maintenance list. Which is a way for an organization to say, we recognize we have work that needs to be done, but we can't do it because of funding.

Finding funding for a spillway that has never been used in 50 years is not easy to do. Easier to say, Hey we need High Speed Rail, or we need a new sports stadium. Whatever.
We need to change our model. It's not working as good as it could.

I had this conversation with my boss this morning. The city is spending something like 20 million on new facilities all over the city. Most of them are additions being added to existing structures. They've been having meetings where someone from the city explains it all.

According to the city, maintaining the buildings won't create growth. Building new shit will create growth, and then in a few years we'll talk about maintenance.

[Penner]

Here is the Rachel Maddow's piece that she reported on the crisis for the Oroville Dam (and she was like the first to do this, btw):

[C-Mag]

I had this conversation with my boss this morning. The city is spending something like 20 million on new facilities all over the city. Most of them are additions being added to existing structures. They've been having meetings where someone from the city explains it all.

According to the city, maintaining the buildings won't create growth. Building new shit will create growth, and then in a few years we'll talk about maintenance.

Deferred Maintenance for US Gov structures is over 100 Billion dollars
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsrepor ... _maint.htm

[SuburbanFarmer]

Make America Not Collapse Into Ruin.

[de officiis]

Deferred Maintenance for US Gov structures is over 100 Billion dollars
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsrepor ... _maint.htm

I think you made the key point: maintaining all this infrastructure isn't sexy or exciting enough compared to building new stuff. That mindset needs to be reversed.

[C-Mag]

Deferred Maintenance for US Gov structures is over 100 Billion dollars
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsrepor ... _maint.htm

I think you made the key point: maintaining all this infrastructure isn't sexy or exciting enough compared to building new stuff. That mindset needs to be reversed.

Yep, Wouldn't a high speed rail be great ! Folks, we can't afford high speed rail.

Fact is we need as big as an effort as we used on building the interstate highway system and electrical grid.............. AGAIN.

Sounds like a lot of American jobs to me. Win, Win for us.

[Okeefenokee]

Remember when we built a new forum instead of repairing the old one?

[Fife]

Deferred Maintenance for US Gov structures is over 100 Billion dollars
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsrepor ... _maint.htm

I think you made the key point: maintaining all this infrastructure isn't sexy or exciting enough compared to building new stuff. That mindset needs to be reversed.

It just might go a layer deeper than that.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257285/

From the link, "magical thinking:"

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It just might go a layer deeper than that.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/257285/

From the link, "magical thinking:"

You joke, but Will is the Only Law bruh. We are going to fix this mess with mind lasers.

Hail Satan!