The Left Does not Reason

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Penner » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:24 pm

clubgop wrote:
Overall, it just seems that I am more or less responding to the people here and now where else.
Yes tell us how effective your little bubble is. This thing called reality keeps puncturing it.
I am not living in a any bubble, trust me but apparently a lot of people here do.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by clubgop » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:30 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Since when did you willfully ignore all this violence taking place over the past year?

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I guess I can play this game too:
MINNEAPOLIS - A jury on Wednesday convicted a Minnesota man of assault for opening fire and wounding five men demonstrating against the fatal shooting of a black man by Minneapolis police officers.

Allen Scarsella, 24, of Bloomington, was found guilty on all charges of assault and riot. Scarsella showed no emotion as the Hennepin County jury’s verdict was read.CBS Minnesota reports that the jury deliberated for seven hours.


Scarsella was accused of shooting and injuring the five African-American men at a Black Lives Matter protest after the police shooting death of Jamar Clark in 2015.

Scarsella and three other men, all wearing face masks, went into an encampment outside a police station in north Minneapolis to livestream Black Lives Matter protests that had closed down a city block. Scarsella, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, brought a .45-caliber handgun and fired at demonstrators in what his attorneys say was self-defense.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-m ... nd-guilty/

Bzzzzt

That's one guy committing a crime, not a riot caused by a thousand or more organized leftists, wearing uniform garb, carrying shields and weapons, and all bussed into the location on the dime of the republican party. Somebody trained these black bloc troops. Somebody paid to have them bussed into cities from all over the country. To even call this a riot is not accurate. It was a paramilitary attack on American citizens, organized by the democratic party, and allowed to happen by colluding government officials.

This violence we have seen perpetrated by the left is organized by the leadership of the democratic party. It is perpetrated by large numbers of leftists. Leftist mayors and police chiefs collude with the terrorists to stand down, in criminal violation of civil rights laws, so that the opponents of the democratic party will get beaten and possibly murdered. The leadership of the democratic party goes on television and calls for violence on the streets (Tim Cain). Leftist media blankets televisions with calls for violence. Former democratic administration officials continue to call for revolutions and bloody military coups. The rest of you do everything possible to ignore it, cover it up, obfuscate it, reassign blame to the victims, and otherwise do not give a flying fuck because you probably support it.
Penner, Doe et al, just go back to calling us racist, sexist, Nazis, or whatever. This debate thing you are monumentally fucking up.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by clubgop » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:32 pm

Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Overall, it just seems that I am more or less responding to the people here and now where else.
Yes tell us how effective your little bubble is. This thing called reality keeps puncturing it.
I am not living in a any bubble, trust me but apparently a lot of people here do.
Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong and there is always a good excuse and Hillary has a 98.1% chance to win the election.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Penner » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:38 pm

clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Yes tell us how effective your little bubble is. This thing called reality keeps puncturing it.
I am not living in a any bubble, trust me but apparently a lot of people here do.
Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong and there is always a good excuse and Hillary has a 98.1% chance to win the election.
Never said that Leftist never do anything wrong but people here are assuming they are the sole cause of all the wrongs and evils of today society.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:42 pm

Penner wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:Interesting.

The movement Conservatives using the Republican Party, when they were out of power, or wanted more, used lies, distortions, attacks of all kinds to weaken both government, and the movement Liberals in the Democratic Party. Now that the neo-liberals and their tool, the Democratic Party are loosing power, they use similar tactics.

But it's all those nasty, nasty, vile Liberals/Democrats being jerks, fools, and idiots, and not those saintly Conservatives/Republicans. What nonsense.

We are all being tools of the elites and the political parties. So stop please, and use your brains.

Neither party is actually liberal, or conservative, and focusing on the unthinking fanatics like the Teapartiers, or the the SJWs, is doing their work in undermining us, and enriching the elites. If you are an actual Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, you do not have parties that represent you.

We all have parties masquerading as conservative, and liberal, pretending that they work for us. Maybe, just maybe we should work together using what we have in common, which is the same in most things?
Yeah, both sides have their tools but then again, it has been of late (at least here and in the later days of the DCF) that people are trying to say that the is the sole reason for Left=violent, racists, etc... While trying to make the Right out looking like they just want a utopia of equal rights, peaceful, reasoned, etc...

Overall, it just seems that I am more or less responding to the people here and now where else. Then again, you can always point to some crazies that would pick a political side to die on- for whatever reasons- IMO, that seems to be America.
It does feel like one is banging very hard one's head into the wall, doesn't? But what's the alternative? I gotta do something myself.

Luckily, I have my college classes to keep me sane. They expect some contrarianism, and they'll even listen to me. Usually. :-)
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by clubgop » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:45 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Penner wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:Interesting.

The movement Conservatives using the Republican Party, when they were out of power, or wanted more, used lies, distortions, attacks of all kinds to weaken both government, and the movement Liberals in the Democratic Party. Now that the neo-liberals and their tool, the Democratic Party are loosing power, they use similar tactics.

But it's all those nasty, nasty, vile Liberals/Democrats being jerks, fools, and idiots, and not those saintly Conservatives/Republicans. What nonsense.

We are all being tools of the elites and the political parties. So stop please, and use your brains.

Neither party is actually liberal, or conservative, and focusing on the unthinking fanatics like the Teapartiers, or the the SJWs, is doing their work in undermining us, and enriching the elites. If you are an actual Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, you do not have parties that represent you.

We all have parties masquerading as conservative, and liberal, pretending that they work for us. Maybe, just maybe we should work together using what we have in common, which is the same in most things?
Yeah, both sides have their tools but then again, it has been of late (at least here and in the later days of the DCF) that people are trying to say that the is the sole reason for Left=violent, racists, etc... While trying to make the Right out looking like they just want a utopia of equal rights, peaceful, reasoned, etc...

Overall, it just seems that I am more or less responding to the people here and now where else. Then again, you can always point to some crazies that would pick a political side to die on- for whatever reasons- IMO, that seems to be America.
It does feel like one is banging very hard one's head into the wall, doesn't? But what's the alternative? I gotta do something myself.

Luckily, I have my college classes to keep me sane. They expect some contrarianism, and they'll even listen to me. Usually. :-)
College, another venue known for open thought. Are you guys self aware like at all?

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by clubgop » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:50 pm

Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
I am not living in a any bubble, trust me but apparently a lot of people here do.
Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong and there is always a good excuse and Hillary has a 98.1% chance to win the election.
Never said that Leftist never do anything wrong but people here are assuming they are the sole cause of all the wrongs and evils of today society.
No one is making that argument and you know it. Stop being dishonest. I know it is difficult for a leftist to be honest because then they wont be a leftist anymore but try a little. You have lost control, both sides have inmates, no one is saying otherwise. Your inmates are running your shit, that is the difference.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:14 pm

clubgop wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Penner wrote:
Yeah, both sides have their tools but then again, it has been of late (at least here and in the later days of the DCF) that people are trying to say that the is the sole reason for Left=violent, racists, etc... While trying to make the Right out looking like they just want a utopia of equal rights, peaceful, reasoned, etc...

Overall, it just seems that I am more or less responding to the people here and now where else. Then again, you can always point to some crazies that would pick a political side to die on- for whatever reasons- IMO, that seems to be America.
It does feel like one is banging very hard one's head into the wall, doesn't? But what's the alternative? I gotta do something myself.

Luckily, I have my college classes to keep me sane. They expect some contrarianism, and they'll even listen to me. Usually. :-)
College, another venue known for open thought. Are you guys self aware like at all?
I'm aware that college can be a leftist bubble. It's not some monolithic cult, or some kind of hive, however.

Not all colleges are the same, and it's expected in any halfway decent class with a good teacher to actually look at the subject, even (very) politely disagree or argue over it.

If that wasn't true, I wouldn't be wasting my time and money.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Penner » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:26 pm

clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong and there is always a good excuse and Hillary has a 98.1% chance to win the election.
Never said that Leftist never do anything wrong but people here are assuming they are the sole cause of all the wrongs and evils of today society.
No one is making that argument and you know it. Stop being dishonest. I know it is difficult for a leftist to be honest because then they wont be a leftist anymore but try a little. You have lost control, both sides have inmates, no one is saying otherwise. Your inmates are running your shit, that is the difference.

I have your quote where you said this:
clubgop wrote:Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by clubgop » Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:24 pm

Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
Never said that Leftist never do anything wrong but people here are assuming they are the sole cause of all the wrongs and evils of today society.
No one is making that argument and you know it. Stop being dishonest. I know it is difficult for a leftist to be honest because then they wont be a leftist anymore but try a little. You have lost control, both sides have inmates, no one is saying otherwise. Your inmates are running your shit, that is the difference.

I have your quote where you said this:
clubgop wrote:Yeah ok. Leftist never do anything wrong
Sarcasm? Do you know it? Thanks for demonstrating the dishonesty.