Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by apeman » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:49 pm

Irony:

risk assets rallying on populist/nationalist developments when the root of these movements (at least in part) is the growing gap between wages and risk assets.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:53 pm

apeman wrote:Irony:

risk assets rallying on populist/nationalist developments when the root of these movements (at least in part) is the growing gap between wages and risk assets.
Almost as though the 'solutions' were making it far, far worse... ;)
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by apeman » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:59 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
apeman wrote:Irony:

risk assets rallying on populist/nationalist developments when the root of these movements (at least in part) is the growing gap between wages and risk assets.
Almost as though the 'solutions' were making it far, far worse... ;)
Well, the establishment is so clueless that I'm confident we will continue to push the gap between wages and risk assets to increasing disparity, we will continue to see more unrest and populism, and then we will have no choice left but to conclude that the unrest is caused by [insert WaPo headline referring to race/education/religion/bigotry here].

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by ssu » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:12 pm

The federalists should be blamed if the European Union dissolves. They are the real culprits. Never were happy what had been gained, oh no, they just wanted more power to themselves in Brussels. As if the Union would dissolve somehow without being an "United States of Europe".


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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Otern » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:16 pm

So, what's the next election/referendum in Europe that could keep driving the Union off the cliff?

The French election is coming up, but it's still months away.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by apeman » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:32 pm

Otern wrote:So, what's the next election/referendum in Europe that could keep driving the Union off the cliff?
Whatever it is, it sounds preposterously bullish.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheOneX » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:55 pm

BjornP wrote:And I have to say, I like the confederacy idea much better as well. Federalists like to prop up Charlemagne as the "Grandfather of Europe". But imo, Hanseatic League > Charlemagne's Empire.
I feel like Charlemagne's accomplishments often to exaggerated. He certainly was the greatest leader of his time, but I feel he should take a back seat to the Romans when it comes to the title "Grandfather of Europe". There is a reason Charlemagne's empire was named after Rome.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:54 pm

apeman wrote:
Otern wrote:So, what's the next election/referendum in Europe that could keep driving the Union off the cliff?
Whatever it is, it sounds preposterously bullish.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:31 pm

The problem with the Euros staring to lean right....is that they'll keep leaning right until they fall over...:popcorn:

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Ex-California » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:35 pm

TheOneX wrote:
BjornP wrote:And I have to say, I like the confederacy idea much better as well. Federalists like to prop up Charlemagne as the "Grandfather of Europe". But imo, Hanseatic League > Charlemagne's Empire.
I feel like Charlemagne's accomplishments often to exaggerated. He certainly was the greatest leader of his time, but I feel he should take a back seat to the Romans when it comes to the title "Grandfather of Europe". There is a reason Charlemagne's empire was named after Rome.
That's absolutely true, but it gives the Germans an inferiority complex
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