THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:43 am

C-Mag wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Democrats became the anti-white male party, lost the male vote, and failed to capture white women voters.

My prediction is that by next presidential election, they will explicity have become the anti-white party. White women are already getting the treatment heaped upon white men.

Identity politics is how everything will work from here on out, and the biggest mistake the democrats made was believing white women would identify with some nebulous, made-up sisterhood rather than their race.

The economics issue was a huge factor, but it was nothing compared to identity politics.
The Dems are racing toward becoming this weird SJW party, where whites are 3rd class citizens. They are a reflection of their leader Barrack Hussein Obama. It doesn't mean they will lose the next election though.

You are dead on about economic issues. Trumps biggest challenge is righting the economy. Money happens to be his strong suit. If he is able to bring a significant number of middle class jobs back to America, bring some fairness to taxes and generally change the economic mood of the country he will win in a Reagan style landslide in 2020. If he is not able to do that, it's anyones game.

Identity politics is the natural state of affairs when an empire becomes "multicultural". Whites remain the majority so the existing minorities, and especially the nonwestern colonizers, will align up against us. They will fight each other to some extent as well.

The democrats and their neocon/libertarian allies fucked this country probaby for good with their totally dysfunctional ideology.

This shit does not work.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:43 am

:shock:
I'm speechless.

Shit, I didn't think anyone was even looking at us anymore. I knew they were when we were on DCF, but I just kind of thought we faded away into the digital wilderness.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:44 am

Thar be dragons.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:45 am

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GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Yeah, only a few on the Left/Dem/Prog spectrum have even come to the conclusion of what a shitty and stupid candidate HIllary was and that the Dems just rammed her down their throats. I'm not sure they will ever really understand how badly they were outwitted by Trumps Open Source Insurgency.
You just contradicted yourself.

Were liberals betrayed by a corrupt-ass Democratic party machine, or did Trump somehow create that situation, or did he just 4D Chess all over the place and do some Jedi shit to win? Which narrative do you guys want to use anymore??
To me, both the Dems were stupid and Trump's team was innovative, agile and brilliant.

3 reasons why the Democrats are stupid.
1. The Dems went in with a pre-determined candidate, platform and outcome established.
2. The Dems had tunnel vision based on what they knew to be true about politics and elections over the last 30 years and their system had no ability or flexibility to adapt and shift as new information came in about the mood of voters. For example, they were locked into Hillary even though all evidence pointed to the American people favored a political outlier. They still have tunnel vision.
3. Hillary is a loser. She was an also ran and Dems knew it, but wouldn't admit it. Whenever given a choice, Dems themselves quickly tossed Hillary aside for someone else be it BHO or Bernie. Hillary is a welfare candidate in that she has always had to be propped up by someone else, first it was BJ Clinton, then it was BHO, then it was by DW Schultz and the DNC. She didn't even have the ability to win her own party without someone putting their thumb on the scale for her.

3 reasons Trump and his team are smarter
1. Trump was smart enough to see the lay of the land and the mood of the country that 2016 was maybe the only time in history when Trump would be a viable option. And he grabbed that opportunity and capitalized on it. I can't under sell this. This is the first time in our 200+ years of electing presidents that we have elected a person with ZERO government experience.
2. Trump had to outmaneuver 16 GOP candidates, Bernie and HIllary. This took crafting a message and framing and image of each of those candidates. Trump took them one by one, check out the GOP polling and look at the messaging and what happened to opposing candidates once Trump turned his attention to Low Energy Bush, Little Boots Rubio and Lyin Ted Cruz.
3. Once Trumps team had won the GOP, they had to deal with the general election. Expert opinion was that the Big Blue Wall was inpenetrable. But Trump's Open Source Insurgency used new tactics, techniques and procedures to punch holes in the Big Blue Wall that was the Rust Belt. AND, they did it with fewer people and less money.

Throughout the entire process the Dems had no idea what was going on in the country, showed little to no concern about what the American people wanted and stayed with their tunnel vision. They did not have the intelligence or resourcefulness to even realize that Trump was a threat until 2100 hrs election night when the race was over. They are so locked into this thought that they still don't understand. They are trying to reason this out, they are so rigid in their orthodoxy that they can't realize they have been outsmarted and outworked(Trump just outworks everyone) by a small team. In their delusion they have come to the conclusion that Hillary must have been cheated, it was the Russians.
I'm on board with all of your points, except perhaps that Trump "outworked" Hillary. They were both pretty damn exhausted, and according to The Circus, she was running her ass off for the last 2 months all over the country.

I also have never seen a consistent "crafted" message from Trump, at any point in this thing. He market-tested a lot of shit before he nailed the white-rage-wall thing.

Either way, good post.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:56 am

He was flying all over the nation holding huge rallies. She was holding staged, fake rallies where paid crowds were spliced into footage of her speaking in front of a green screen. There were entire weeks where her health problems rendered her AWOL.

Everything about her campaign was fake as fuck. We dodged a bullet last Nov.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:00 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:I'm on board with all of your points, except perhaps that Trump "outworked" Hillary. They were both pretty damn exhausted, and according to The Circus, she was running her ass off for the last 2 months all over the country.

I also have never seen a consistent "crafted" message from Trump, at any point in this thing. He market-tested a lot of shit before he nailed the white-rage-wall thing.

Either way, good post.
1) Trump went to way more campaign rallies down the final stretch, the man never slept it seemed. His campaign worked harder and smarter than her campaign despite Hillary having a vastly larger team. Bigger isn't always better.

2) Trump actually had a message though, all Hillary had was "Trump sucks". By comparison to his competition that's a blowout. A-B testing is an indication that Trump is attempting to sharpen his message, it isn't an indication that his message isn't being crafted, it's experimenting to find out what works best. Consistency is overrated, Hillary was more consistent with her messaging than Trump but her messaging was stale and boring and his was fresh and flashy, so it did her no good.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:04 pm

Why didn't Trump release his taxes during the campaign? Maybe because if he did the media's reaction would have been the same as Penner's, unless he released all of them and then they would have nitpicked the shit out of them at a time Trump wanted to talk about things that helped him a whole lot more than when the subject is on his tax returns, which the electorate never cared about anyway. The media was never successful at keeping the spotlight on his tax returns in a way that hurt him but if he had released them during the campaign he might have given them ammunition they needed to change that, he wasn't about to fall for the same trap that Romney fell for.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:06 pm

StCapps wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:I'm on board with all of your points, except perhaps that Trump "outworked" Hillary. They were both pretty damn exhausted, and according to The Circus, she was running her ass off for the last 2 months all over the country.

I also have never seen a consistent "crafted" message from Trump, at any point in this thing. He market-tested a lot of shit before he nailed the white-rage-wall thing.

Either way, good post.
1) Trump went to way more campaign rallies down the final stretch, the man never slept it seemed. His campaign worked harder and smarter than her campaign despite Hillary having a vastly larger team. Bigger isn't always better.

2) Trump actually had a message though, all Hillary had was "Trump sucks". By comparison to his competition that's a blowout. A-B testing is an indication that Trump is attempting to sharpen his message, it isn't an indication that his message isn't being crafted, it's experimenting to find out what works best. Consistency is overrated, Hillary was more consistent with her messaging than Trump but her messaging was stale and boring and his was fresh and flashy, so it did her no good.
Right.. so if there was no consistent "message" to the campaign, then what exactly was he elected on? Blind rage, and 'Lesser of 2 Evils'? That's not something to inspire pride or gloat over. Certainly doesn't tell me that he has any kind of actual plan for running/fixing things.

But yeah, white people won something I guess, so that's great?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:07 pm

StCapps wrote:Why didn't Trump release his taxes during the campaign? Maybe because if he did the media's reaction would have been the same as Penner's, unless he released all of them and then they would have nitpicked the shit out of them at a time Trump wanted to talk about things that helped him a whole lot more than when the subject is on his tax returns, which the electorate never cared about anyway.
A lot of the electorate does, in fact, care about that. Even if it's meaningless, it shows an openness to investigation, and serves as a 'poor man's check on corruption'.

Releasing a single tax return from 10 years ago, after being elected is just a slap in the face to anyone concerned with corruption. But then, so is the rest of our government.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:09 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
StCapps wrote:Why didn't Trump release his taxes during the campaign? Maybe because if he did the media's reaction would have been the same as Penner's, unless he released all of them and then they would have nitpicked the shit out of them at a time Trump wanted to talk about things that helped him a whole lot more than when the subject is on his tax returns, which the electorate never cared about anyway.
A lot of the electorate does, in fact, care about that. Even if it's meaningless, it shows an openness to investigation, and serves as a 'poor man's check on corruption'.

Releasing a single tax return from 10 years ago, after being elected is just a slap in the face to anyone concerned with corruption. But then, so is the rest of our government.
If they cared about to any real degree they would have elected Clinton and the tax returns would have been a much bigger story than it was, but clearly they didn't care. You are projecting your own concern about Trump's tax returns on the electorate, they never gave a shit. They only cared with Romney because he got baited into releasing his returns by Harry Reid like a cuck, and then media kept the spotlight on that because Romney didn't just say yeah I pay as low tax as possible, why the fuck wouldn't I? Romney made tax returns seem more important than they are because he royally fucked up the roll out and gave the media ammunition he never should have given them.
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