The Green Leap Forward

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:47 am

any idiot that went to school and learned the scientific method
I bow to your greater experience of that position.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by brewster » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:26 am

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:32 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:38 am
Studies like this are dangerous.
The rallying cry of the science denier throughout history. :lol:
No, they are dangerous because they cherry pick data to prove a point, instead of letting the facts tell the full story, any idiot that went to school and learned the scientific method would understand that.
You're so immersed in your partisan nonsense you are unable to credit anyone who's not. This report was not by a liberal think tank, it was by an investment firm. They deal in reality. It's similar to how the administration denies climate change while the Pentagon, who must live in reality, is planning for it.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:32 am

brewster wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:26 am
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:32 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:38 am


The rallying cry of the science denier throughout history. :lol:
No, they are dangerous because they cherry pick data to prove a point, instead of letting the facts tell the full story, any idiot that went to school and learned the scientific method would understand that.
You're so immersed in your partisan nonsense you are unable to credit anyone who's not. This report was not by a liberal think tank, it was by an investment firm. They deal in reality. It's similar to how the administration denies climate change while the Pentagon, who must live in reality, is planning for it.
No, I just have a memory longer than 2 years.

If you don't take into consideration all the finacial options, everything looks green and happy. When in reality, like most government programs, it goes to shit fast.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:22 am

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Fife » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:23 am

The heretics will be made to care.

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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:33 am

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:32 am
brewster wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:26 am
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:32 am


No, they are dangerous because they cherry pick data to prove a point, instead of letting the facts tell the full story, any idiot that went to school and learned the scientific method would understand that.
You're so immersed in your partisan nonsense you are unable to credit anyone who's not. This report was not by a liberal think tank, it was by an investment firm. They deal in reality. It's similar to how the administration denies climate change while the Pentagon, who must live in reality, is planning for it.
No, I just have a memory longer than 2 years.

If you don't take into consideration all the finacial options, everything looks green and happy. When in reality, like most government programs, it goes to shit fast.
What about the cost of cleaning up oil spills or removing co2 from the atmosphere, does that get considered?
Talk to BP if you don't think it amounts to much.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:34 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:33 am
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:32 am
brewster wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:26 am

You're so immersed in your partisan nonsense you are unable to credit anyone who's not. This report was not by a liberal think tank, it was by an investment firm. They deal in reality. It's similar to how the administration denies climate change while the Pentagon, who must live in reality, is planning for it.
No, I just have a memory longer than 2 years.

If you don't take into consideration all the finacial options, everything looks green and happy. When in reality, like most government programs, it goes to shit fast.
What about the cost of cleaning up oil spills or removing co2 from the atmosphere, does that get considered?
Talk to BP if you don't think it amounts to much.
That oil spill was allowed to get out of control by the Obama Administration, to prove green energy is better.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:36 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:40 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:33 am

What about the cost of cleaning up oil spills or removing co2 from the atmosphere, does that get considered?
Talk to BP if you don't think it amounts to much.
Clearly those type of environmental problems are caused by global warming.
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Re: The Green Leap Forward

Post by The Conservative » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:48 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:36 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:
So you have no response... good to show your hand.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... -oil-spill

A full month and the BP oil spill was not contained.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... er-horizon

We can go through this all you want, but at the same time Obama was doing nothing to relieve the pressure of the cost of gas at the pump, and pushed hard for green energy during this time, and in turn several of the companies he attempted to get funding for went under a few years out because the tech was too expensive to produce and make profitable without government handouts.

SO, the question comes into play, what changed?

My guess, nothing. Because the true cost of the tech hasn't been figured out, all positive numbers aren't because the true cost of green energy is expensive, from the start, and each time it has to be updated or replaced.
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