THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by de officiis » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:17 pm

Penner wrote:Vox has an interesting Q&A with Richard Painter (a Bush ethics lawyer) and here are some highlights from that article (FYI, Tara Golshan is the one asking the questions and Richard Painter is the one answering them):

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T
ara Golshan
How do you understand Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s Senate testimony and the reports that followed?

Richard Painter
He said they had not had talks with Russians during the political campaign. And now he says, well, what he meant to say was that he had not had contact with the Russians to discuss the political campaign. But that’s not what he said.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ ... ia-scandal
Painter misquotes the guy to attempt to establish a misrepresentation. From what I read in the media reports, then question put to Sessions was whether he had talked with them about the 2016 campaign, to which he said no. I don't have the dates of these events firmly mapped out, but I don't think Sessions denied talking to the Russians at all, because he wasn't asked that.

I don't know what Painter's experience is. Maybe he doesn't do trial work, but he ought to know that if you are going to try to impeach a witness with a prior inconsistent statement, you had better make sure it's truly inconsistent. If not, and you are caught distorting the prior statement to fit a square peg into a round hole, you will piss off your judge, not to mention the jury if you're pulling such a stunt in front of them and the get the sense from the judge that you're playing games.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:20 pm

you will piss off your judge, not to mention the jury
Implying either can be counted on being impartial these days.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by kybkh » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:26 pm

The rank hypocrisy is bothersome.

What is frightening is watching the NSA us its collected data to set people up for hit jobs.

Pence was set up, Sessions was set up, of course Flynn but I still blame that on Trump being a pussy.

This is all out electronic warfare perpetrated upon an elected government persecuted by an Intelligence community anchored by some of the largest corporations (Amazon, Google, Facebook).

We won't win unless it goes hot.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:28 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:More like fans of honesty and tired of fake news..
Everybody is tired of fake news and misinformation. Yet some of us seem to believe that 100% of it is directed against their 'side'. :think:
Like you ever passed on an opportunity to parrot fake news. Your comment about the speech the other night was a word for word copy and paste from cnn. You the fuck you trying to convince? No one here is buying except penner, and the last thing you need is her backing you up.
I don't watch CNN, but somebody on NPR had a comment similar to the "low bar" angle I think... whatever. Great work managing to read speech good.

Either way, attacking everyone relentlessly is not going to make us suddenly like trump. And your "side" has been incredibly hostile and defensive around here, despite all of the "winning" that you're doing.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:30 pm

Amazon, Google, Facebook
Three of these things are just like the other.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by skankhunt42 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:40 pm

Just heard from a source that Trump's Son - IN - Law had meetings with the Russians. What are the implications of that?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:44 pm

skankhunt42 wrote:Just heard from a source that Trump's Son - IN - Law had meetings with the Russians. What are the implications of that?

Did you mean this story?
A White House official said President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and the man who would become national security advisor, Michael Flynn, met with Russia's ambassador to the U.S. in December.

The official called the sit-down at Trump Tower in New York a "brief courtesy meeting." The official wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and insisted on anonymity.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Kushner had, I think still does, business interests involving Russia to some degree or another. Not really surprising. In fact we knew about this before November.

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Post by Penner » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:53 pm

Isn't Kusner part of Trump's inner circle of senior advisors at the White House?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:56 pm

Stepson. He was being considered for a role in the administration but that was quashed when the news of his Ukraine business dealings broke. Or so I thought at least.