BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:09 pm

Because it's more than bumpstocks. SHARE got shelved. Granted Ryan was going to shelve it anyway but this was just in the knick of time to save him face. Now people think SHARE and think silencers. Hilary tweeted about SHARE and silencers. But it was more than that. Part of the bill was to preempt "armor piercing ammo" from being legislated against from what I understand. Like somewhere in the bill is the approval for "armor piercing ammo." Now what is armor piercing ammo? That's large caliber rounds. The republicans were actually being smart and thinking two moves ahead on this because they knew eventually the leftists would attempt to pass legislation to ban large caliber rifles or "armor piercing ammo." I guess the bump stock thing is maybe a 4d chess on the FBI's part in this false flag scenario. Maybe they knew it was inconsequential and that the NRA would be willing to concede them which would put them on a back footing when the entire Trump base blows itself up if and when Trump legislates on them or refuses to veto legislation against it. Idk. I think the bump stocks are a red herring for sure. SHARE getting shut down after the shooting is big. Bigger than most people realize.

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:11 pm

Not exactly the most parsimonious explanation.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:13 pm

Give them the bump stocks, who cares? Bump stocks are stoopid, just don't give them BFSIII, check this shit out...



That was semi-auto folks, no bump stock, no need for auto, binary trigger, semi auto better than auto, totally legal, no machine gun up in here at all.

Watch his finger, he's pumping that trigger the whole way, not a machine gun; NFA approved semi-auto;by definition, suck it, liberals.

Why are you sitting there looking at the screen?

Go fuckin' order one of these things, right fuckin' now, Franklin Armory; you can install it yourself, in like 15 minutes.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:33 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Not exactly the most parsimonious explanation.
I don't attach myself to this theory very closely but it's the only one that is able to jive with all the other weird accounts of the shooting and the shooter's strange history. Quite often legislation is passed against 2a or 4a in the wake of shootings but in this case pro 2a legislation was shot down at the pass.

Now Occam's razor states that this was most likely done by a mentally ill boomer. I have little problem believing this. It would be just like a sick fuck boomer to go out shooting his own people up while he collects SSI.

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:58 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
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Speaker to Animals wrote:Bullets do in fact generate little sonic booms as they break through the sound barrier, no differently than an aircraft.

None of us likely were stupid enough to stand around downrange while people were shooting to hear it unless we were one of James Yeager's students (or camera guy, I guess), so I don't think many people would recognize it either way. We could try to contact one of Yeager's surviving camera guys to confirm.
You only hear that snap when they're going over your head tho, that snap is the bullet passing over your head, it sounds different when the shooter sweeps the weapon away from you, rounds not going over your head, but going downrange in another direction, it sounds different, it's like a doppler effect, sounds more like "Kayaow!" as the rounds fly away from you into the distance.

What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Also, when the second sound disappeared, that's when the dude in the background got nailed in the back, so the visual data fits your hypothesis pretty well. He swept his fire across the field, the bullets were no longer traveling over her head, and then the guy in the distance drops.
The way I interpret the sound on that phone video, is that the mic on the phone is picking up all the low frequency "whup-whup-whup" of the rifle reports, low frequency sound carries, and it echoes, so you would pick that up on the mic from a mile away, the high frequency snaps of the bullets tho, you're not going to pick that up, except for what is flying right by the mic, so he sweeps the weapon right to left to right, spraying fire into the crowd, you hear all the low frequency "whup-whup-whup", but you only hear a narrow slice of the high frequency "snap-snap-snap", just the slice of the rounds which actually flew over her head.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:00 pm

Reminds me of the classic Saving Private Ryan. Some good sound effects in that movie.

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:11 pm

Nukedog wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Not exactly the most parsimonious explanation.
I don't attach myself to this theory very closely but it's the only one that is able to jive with all the other weird accounts of the shooting and the shooter's strange history. Quite often legislation is passed against 2a or 4a in the wake of shootings but in this case pro 2a legislation was shot down at the pass.

Now Occam's razor states that this was most likely done by a mentally ill boomer. I have little problem believing this. It would be just like a sick fuck boomer to go out shooting his own people up while he collects SSI.
I've seen a study that shows that anti-gun control legislation gets passed in the wake of mass shootings, at least over the past few decades. Shelving that legislation would actually be bucking the trend, which would be hard to predict as an outcome if this were some deep state, rights-removal project.

I'ma stick with sick fuck.

Finding a best fit story for all accounts is tough because people are pretty reliably unreliable narrators of their experiences.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:12 pm

The "whup-whup-whup" sound, what GCF said "sounds like a helicopter", that's the rifle report, and it is regular, and when the "snap-snap-snap" comes and goes, it's in sync with that "whup-whup-whup".

If it was two shooters, it would be irregular, there would be two distinct cadences of "whup-whup-whup" generating a noticably irregular beat, and one of them would not be in sync with the "snap-snap-snap" as it sweeps in and out.

The helicopter sound, that regular beat, that's one shooter, if it was two, it wouldn't sound like a helicopter, the beat would be irregular and jumbled.

Does sound like a bump stock too, the cadence speeds up and slows down as he works the sweet spot. Milspec auto, it just speeds up, it doesn't speed up and slow down. When you pull auto on a milspec AR, it goes from 750 to 950 rpm smootly, it doesn't warble like that.
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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:25 pm

Penner wrote:Here is an eyewitness video of the shooting (there are many but I have seen this one posted on a different forum before):

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Re: BREAKING: Las Vegas Active Shooter

Post by C-Mag » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:15 pm

I don't care for Jason Aldean, but running is a normal human reaction. Can't knock the guy for that. The 2 or 3 guys standing and drawing fire in a crowd of 20k + is the anomaly.

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