THE ERA OF TRUMP

[C-Mag]

I liked the way Trump presented Immigration policy for the 21st C. as a Merit based system.
h/t Canada

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I'm reading that it's been revealed that Sessions met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign and later lied under oath about it? Jesus

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I'm reading that it's been revealed that Sessions met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign and later lied under oath about it? Jesus

I did not bring that up.

Just Saying.

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I'm not trying to throw down the gauntlet over this, I'm just getting my initial impressions. I'm on team not-concerned-about-Russia but they do seem to be showing up in the news a little too often. And lying to Congress ain't MAGA

However, a seemingly innocuous alternative fact appears to be this:



Round and round we go

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I'm not trying to throw down the gauntlet over this, I'm just getting my initial impressions. I'm on team not-concerned-about-Russia but they do seem to be showing up in the news a little too often. And lying to Congress ain't MAGA

However, a seemingly innocuous alternative fact appears to be this:

Round and round we go

Sessions is a long term politician and in any way not logical in the whole thing.

I would say the Sessions thing is just hype, which actually plays in the long run in Trump's favour. Talking to Russians seems now to be like having unprotected sex with an AIDS patient.

What is obvious is that Trump thought that an opening with Russia, to get it fighting alongside the US on ISIS was a superb idea. Bannon on the other hand might have visioned an ally in Russia in the ideological struggle (or something like that) that he wishes the US to lead. Even if Bannon understands what kind of a kleptocracy Putin's Russia is, he likes at least some parts of the ideology. At least when he was at Breitbart. The Bannon sitting in the NSC isn't in that role anymore. Anyway, the Trump team thought it would be a good idea.

Clearly Trump didn't understand how delicate thing warming ties with Russia would be: how to get the military establishment and the domestic hawks in the GOP to at least accept it, how not to get US allies confused and worried and above all, how to really deal with Russians in a way that would be mutually beneficial, not an event where Russia milks everything from the approach and then gives the finger. The casual attitude towards the Russians is clearly evident by Trump's remark on asking Russia to find the the emails in front of TV cameras. Trump likely didn't understand what kind of an outrage that would be, how it then would turn into a total shitstorm. And hence there is the possibility that actually Trump was totally with the Russians deliberately helping him. Heck, even the most scandalous way to look at it, the infamous "dossier", puts Trump to be a willing agent, not somebody who is pressured By the Russians to have a Pro-Russia stance. (And here do understand that the term agent is quite broad)

Then you have Trump panicking, throwing everybody linked to the Russia approach under the bus as quickly as possible. And now you have the moderation period where Trump wants to forget the whole thing and move on and basically is coming to the standard US line that already his cabinet is telling. Mattis, McMaster and Tillerson, even if the last one got a medal from Putin, aren't Russophiles.

The establishment doesn't actually want this to blow up, only the democrats want that and likely some of them even don't want this to become the biggest thing since Watergate. It wouldn't be just embarrasing, the ability even for a Pence administration to function would be hindered.

And in any way, the Russia honeymoon starts to be over as Mattis seems to be in control. The only way this gets sidetracked from normality would be if Marine Le Pen gets elected Trump would have the great idea of a triumvirate (Trump-Le Pen-Putin). That would be one hell of a threesome.

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I'm reading that it's been revealed that Sessions met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign and later lied under oath about it? Jesus

I did not bring that up.

Just Saying.

You sound a little defensive...

[Penner]

I'm reading that it's been revealed that Sessions met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign and later lied under oath about it? Jesus

Yeah, I have been hearing about that too. So, if this is correct, then our new AG just perjured himself- right?

Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) spoke twice last year with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Justice Department officials said, encounters he did not disclose when asked about possible contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign and representatives of Moscow during Sessions’s confirmation hearing to become attorney general.

One of the meetings was a private conversation between Sessions and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that took place in September in the senator’s office, at the height of what U.S. intelligence officials say was a Russian cyber campaign to upend the U.S. presidential race.

The previously undisclosed discussions could fuel new congressional calls for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate Russia’s alleged role in the 2016 presidential election. As attorney general, Sessions oversees the Justice Department and the FBI, which have been leading investigations into Russian meddling and any links to Trump’s associates. He has so far resisted calls to recuse himself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 0fed6de572

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[SuburbanFarmer]

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NPR reported on my drive in to work, that the WaPo reported it, and NPR "independently verified" the meetings.
Probably not fake.

[Okeefenokee]

Fake news.