The Left Does not Reason

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:06 pm

Both sides did it. The federal government maintained a concentration camp right down the street from the University of Chicago where just as many confederate prisoners starved to death. What made it worse was that the city erected bleachers around the camp so the inhabitants could pay a penny or whatever to watch tens of thousands of men starving to death.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:13 pm

Martin Hash wrote:So next time, let's see how wearing a BLM hat to a KKK rally works out? Fuckers get a beat down, that's on them I guess.
Some have a problem with nuance. (Not you) :)

Like, it is possible for both sides to be wrong, or stupid, or irresponsible.

Mob beating up people because they are unhappy is wrong. They should be in jail.

Walking up to uncontrolled mob, and taunting them is also wrong. They should get a talk about a man named Charles Darwin.

Both are ungood. At the same time.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:14 pm

Walking up to uncontrolled mob, and taunting them is also wrong
Wtf? Are we just going to go and make up shit endlessly now?

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by jbird4049 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:26 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Nazi's don't invest all those resources into their final solution who knows what they would be capable of.
You're implying they invested quite a lot of resources for little gain. The opposite is true and that's why a lot of Jews died. Jews weren't the first people to get bread in the concentration and work camps when the allies started bombing the railways. If you're implying they invested a lot of resources constructing gas chambers then I would have you know, according to the only Jewish witness at Treblinka, they captured a diesel motor from a Russian tank and used that to gas thousands of Jews in one instance. Despite the fact that running a motor they didn't have parts for was cost prohibitive and diesels don't put out nearly the amount of carbon monoxide as a petrol motor. And it would take days to gas anybody to death with such a contraption. In another instance however, Germans proved they were very smart according to another witness. They simply pumped the air out of the room. Yes it's true, the nazis in Eastern Europe actually built compression chambers out of wood and stone. Germans are that fucking smart my man.
The actual mass murder was fairly easy, and cheap.

However, they still had to use trains, which were the primary means of carry large amounts of anything over long distances. Said trains took priority over the military's use of them. Also some of those camps were large, and had to be built. Then there were all those personnel running the camps. And the death squads running around the countryside. And many people were worked to death as slaves. Slaves who often used what little energy they had in damaging the very things they were building.
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:32 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:So next time, let's see how wearing a BLM hat to a KKK rally works out? Fuckers get a beat down, that's on them I guess.
Some have a problem with nuance. (Not you) :)

Like, it is possible for both sides to be wrong, or stupid, or irresponsible.

Mob beating up people because they are unhappy is wrong. They should be in jail.

Walking up to uncontrolled mob, and taunting them is also wrong. They should get a talk about a man named Charles Darwin.

Both are ungood. At the same time.
Buying a ticket to see a speaker, then showing up to see that speaker, then learning that the show is a cancelled due to safety considerations, then being surrounded by a violent mob, then being pissed off about it....
Why was this mob "uncontrolled," as if that weren't tautological?
The Mets play the Yankees every year--people wear the "wrong" hats--no riots--though, to be fair, the cops do their job.
Keep defending the indefensible, more laughs for me!
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:33 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
TheReal_ND wrote:
Nazi's don't invest all those resources into their final solution who knows what they would be capable of.
You're implying they invested quite a lot of resources for little gain. The opposite is true and that's why a lot of Jews died. Jews weren't the first people to get bread in the concentration and work camps when the allies started bombing the railways. If you're implying they invested a lot of resources constructing gas chambers then I would have you know, according to the only Jewish witness at Treblinka, they captured a diesel motor from a Russian tank and used that to gas thousands of Jews in one instance. Despite the fact that running a motor they didn't have parts for was cost prohibitive and diesels don't put out nearly the amount of carbon monoxide as a petrol motor. And it would take days to gas anybody to death with such a contraption. In another instance however, Germans proved they were very smart according to another witness. They simply pumped the air out of the room. Yes it's true, the nazis in Eastern Europe actually built compression chambers out of wood and stone. Germans are that fucking smart my man.
The actual mass murder was fairly easy, and cheap.

However, they still had to use trains, which were the primary means of carry large amounts of anything over long distances. Said trains took priority over the military's use of them. Also some of those camps were large, and had to be built. Then there were all those personnel running the camps. And the death squads running around the countryside. And many people were worked to death as slaves. Slaves who often used what little energy they had in damaging the very things they were building.
That's a nice story you made up there. The fuck out of here.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:41 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:So next time, let's see how wearing a BLM hat to a KKK rally works out? Fuckers get a beat down, that's on them I guess.
Some have a problem with nuance. (Not you) :)

Like, it is possible for both sides to be wrong, or stupid, or irresponsible.

Mob beating up people because they are unhappy is wrong. They should be in jail.

Walking up to uncontrolled mob, and taunting them is also wrong. They should get a talk about a man named Charles Darwin.

Both are ungood. At the same time.
Buying a ticket to see a speaker, then showing up to see that speaker, then learning that the show is a cancelled due to safety considerations, then being surrounded by a violent mob, then being pissed off about it....
Why was this mob "uncontrolled," as if that weren't tautological?
The Mets play the Yankees every year--people wear the "wrong" hats--no riots--though, to be fair, the cops do their job.
Keep defending the indefensible, more laughs for me!
I wouldn't attend a Packers game with my Bears jersey on, and yell at Packer fans because that's fucking stupid. Same concept here.

As Jbird was wise enough to point out, both sides are wrong. That's all I've been saying for pages.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:47 pm

How me where these people weren't simply trying to leave the premises before being mobbed. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by C-Mag » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:31 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:T-34's were so popular with Germans that they had special "conversion kits" for them. They employed Czech tanks throughout the war in one capacity or another. In Normandy, the Allies faced French tanks with Ukrainian crews. Gerry-rigged has acquired a negative connotation in modern parlance, but they were clever bastards and would put anything to useful to use. Also, who didn't love a jeep?
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I didn't know the Germans had conversion kits for the T34. Another piece of T34 trivia, the base design was made by an American, last name Christie. Like the Maxim Machine Gun, tried to sell it to the US first, the gov said no thanks. The Soviets jumped on it.

Here's a nice pic of a chunk of Lend Lease equipment........... we should have a thread for nothing but WWII equipment and tech. Everyone likes to talk about it.
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Re: The Left Does not Reason

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:15 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:How me where these people weren't simply trying to leave the premises before being mobbed. Go ahead, I'll wait.
It's right there in Bitcoin Girls video that StA posted. First a shot of counter-protesters on the other side of the metal fence yelling back and antagonizing, then the guy facedown in the street, then Bitcoin Girl says "I'm just here trying to make a statement".

She's not leaving the scene, and she very well may have shown up just for the fight.

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