So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

[StCapps]

America was a attacked, just like Pearl Harbor, the American people were out for revenge. Shit happens.

Right and one of things to avoid in the future, is idiotic nation building in a nation that is basically irrelevant to the American hegemony.

No nation is irrelevant to the Global Hegemon.

The Global Hegemon is going to be attacked, totally annihilating the enemy is not realistic

When you are a Hegemon, everything is nation building, that is the very nature of hegemonic war.

No Nation Building is a talking point, it's not a realistic plan.

It's a totally realistic plan. There is nothing unrealistic about it, aside from the fact that America wants to keep making the same mistakes over and over and never learn, looking for a Vietnam Do Over that they apparently learned jack shit from.

[heydaralon]

I also lift weights. You'd be fucked. You need to agreeing with what I post on here dude. Smitty would side with me. He has been paid off. You are on your own. When I argue something, you need to show me the respect I deserve. Starting with how Stamkos is the best hockey goalie of all time with no close second.

[StCapps]

America will make the mistake at least twice, but that doesn't mean they should.

Zero Defects is unrealistic, war is chaos, you can't control it with precision.

No plan survives contact, you have to ride the tiger by the tail.

Make other mistakes, stop repeating the old ones that are doomed to fail. Nothing unrealistic about that, other than the goldfish memory and inability of nations to learn from obvious mistakes. America isn't going to win any of it's Vietnam Do Overs until they stop making the same mistake over and over again, and make some new one's instead while sticking with what clearly works.

[Smitty-48]

America will make the mistake at least twice, but that doesn't mean they should.

Zero Defects is unrealistic, war is chaos, you can't control it with precision.

No plan survives contact, you have to ride the tiger by the tail.

Make other mistakes, stop repeating the old ones that are doomed to fail. Nothing unrealistic about that.

Culture is destiny, the Glorious Union is what it is.

If you don't factor that into your plan, that's an unrealistic plan.

[StCapps]

Zero Defects is unrealistic, war is chaos, you can't control it with precision.

No plan survives contact, you have to ride the tiger by the tail.

Make other mistakes, stop repeating the old ones that are doomed to fail. Nothing unrealistic about that.

Culture is destiny, the Glorious Union is what it is.

If you don't factor that into your plan, that's an unrealistic plan.

Right and the culture need not include random nation building to nowhere boondoggles. That is a minor part of their culture at best, and they can fall back on far more deeply ingrained aspects of their culture that actually include successful foreign policy strategies. So it's not unrealistic at all, just tone down the Wilsonian a little, and amp up the Jacksonian and Hamiltonian a little, problem fucking solved.

[Montegriffo]

Can't make money out of a broken country.
This is why America needed the Marshall plan. A Europe in ruins can't afford to buy Fords or Coca-Colas.

[Smitty-48]

Make other mistakes, stop repeating the old ones that are doomed to fail. Nothing unrealistic about that.

Culture is destiny, the Glorious Union is what it is.

If you don't factor that into your plan, that's an unrealistic plan.

Right and the culture need not include random nation building to nowhere boondoggles. That is a minor part of their culture at best, and they can fall back on far more deeply ingrained aspects of their culture that actually include successful foreign policy strategies. So it's not unrealistic at all, just tone down the Wilsonian a little, and amp up the Jacksonian and Hamiltonian a little, problem fucking solved.

It's not going to be solved that way, I'm betting on more nation building.

Trump is Jacksonian, he's doing it too. Trump has not thrown the Carter Doctrine out, he's a Neocon.

All hegemonic wars are nation building wars, that's what it is to be the Hegemon, Trump is not giving it up.

Congress is not giving it up, even the Democrats are Neocons.

It's not a small part of the culture, Wilson, Jackson, Hamilton, they were all imperialists.

America is imperialist and always was, right back to the Ohio Valley.

[heydaralon]

The only non imperialist presidents in American history were LBJ and James K Polk. Look it up dumbasses.

[Smitty-48]

There are no non imperialist Presidents

The Founders fully intended to go West and take the whole thing, from Britain and Spain.

George Washington was a British imperialist, Virginia simply became so rich that they didn't need London anymore.

[PartyOf5]

that's the best you've got?

That's the most I'm willing to give.