THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by ssu » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:08 am

Flynn is here the wildcard and I don't know how he will get along with the other generals in the cabinet. (I assume Mattis and Kelly will simply continue from where they left...)

Flynn simply feels like an edgy character. Was fired from his post, so that's something. I'm not sure Flynn is "Pro-Russian" or something, just being a commentator on RT or sitting next to Putin does raise some questions, but surely isn't proof of anything. I don't know just why he would tweet the stupid things he did, perhaps some in the Trump Campaign said that "Everybody! You have to tweet these things" and he just went fine, whatever.
Okeefenokee wrote: If you had been in Afghanistan, and you weren't, and you found out one of your soldiers was sharing information your queen had told you wasn't to be shared with them, you would have had them hung, but go on telling us how it's all just concern trolling. How you don't really listen much to what her majesty has to say on the matter.
Not following orders , especially on handling of stuff tells allways something about the person. Yet if a general does see some extremely stupid regulation or a similar thing is blocking his attempt to reach and fullfill the objectives he has been ordered to accomplish, then I think they can bend the rules ...yet be prepared to take the heat from it.

I'm not familiar with the incident so I cannot say more.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:12 am

Okee drink some ovaltine and take a nap. You're getting rustled. The more you post walls of text to prove you're not a cuck, the more cucked you look.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:14 am

“The investigation on me was for sharing intelligence with the Brits and Australians in combat, and I’m proud of that one, I did it with the right permissions when you dig into the investigation. Accuse me of sharing intelligence in combat with our closest allies, please.” - Gen. Michael Flynn

Seems pretty based tbh.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:17 am

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:17 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Whatever okee, you've been sussed, boy, ain't no going back now, ain't no putting that Cuck back in the bottle, and invoking the British Crown ain't gonna save yeas, no matter how many times you go crawling to the Queen.
Sussed by what? You? You know I'm fucking right. You're just too invested to admit it. Go on down with that ship. Keep on arguing against the very same standards you would have shit stomped any of your soldiers for violating. If you had been in Afghanistan, and you weren't, and you found out one of your soldiers was sharing information your queen had told you wasn't to be shared with them, you would have had them hung, but go on telling us how it's all just concern trolling. How you don't really listen much to what her majesty has to say on the matter.
Just stop digging, okee, you aint helping your case, son, with all this flailing about and trying to pin something on the Queen, the Queen didn't make you cuck okee, you cucked yourself, Afghanistan didn't make you into a Cuck niether okee, and there ain't nothing in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, that says you have Cuck yourself for the liberal concern trolls of America.
It ain't liberal concern trolling. You sound like CNN with their fake news bullshit. I don't dislike Flynn. Don't know much about him. Don't even know if he even violated any rules on classified information. I said, if he did, I don't excuse it outright because of some blind obedience to Trump. I said, if he did it in a theater of war, with colleagues in said theater, I view that in a different light than a SoS blatantly saying fuck you to any all rules of security.

I said I don't automatically give him a pass for anything he might have done, and that I don't reflexively convict him.

I referenced Petraeus. I understand the information he disclosed probably wasn't that sensitive, but being a General, knowing that a private doesn't get any leeway on these matters, that I expect him to respect the same rules. For no other reason than it sets a bad example. If setting the standard from the top is meaningless to you, then I guess that speaks to the difference in our forces.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:23 am

I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang. If I thought something was pointlessly overclassified and lives were on the line? Of course I'd give the shooters in the breach the dope, in a heartbeat.

To me, this is not a bug with Flynn, this is a feature.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:33 am

Smitty-48 wrote:I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang.
I don't equate them either, and I didn't say I did. I didn't even say I knew what Flynn did. I said, to penner's post, that I didn't give a blanket pardon to Flynn because he was a Trump select. That's been her schtich for days. Pointing out, "ooh ooh look." I stated I wasn't playing favorites. You're the one who piled on when I said I would hold him to the same standard as I held others.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:36 am

Whatever, guy, you're Cuck to me now, I can see the liberal media just going concern troll crazy on this as we speak, and there you are, right with them, quoting some bullshit to me, with no regard to the context of a ginned up liberal concern troll bum rush gotcha game.

You've gone Cuck, boy, sorry to have to say.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:40 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Whatever, guy, you're Cuck to me now, I can see the liberal media just going concern troll crazy on this as we speak, and there you are, right with them, quoting some bullshit to me, with no regard to the context of a ginned up liberal concern troll bum rush gotcha game.

You've gone Cuck, boy, sorry to have to say.
Bullshit. It took you at least three pages to finally hear me. You're not a cuck. You're just drunk.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:47 am

Smitty-48 wrote:I don't equate Flynn sharing intel, which I bet was pointlessly over classified in the first place, to the Brits and Aussies in combat, with Patraeus handing documents to some civilian groupie back home in Washington because he wanted to get laid, and if you can't see the distinction, then I guess that speaks to the difference between our forces and yours, because no doubt a Brit or an Aussie would stick his neck out to save Americans in combat, even if meant bending the rules, even if it might get him charged for it, no doubt in my mind.

I'd certainly take the hit for that, go ahead and charge my ass, ain't no thang. If I thought something was pointlessly overclassified and lives were on the line? Of course I'd give the shooters in the breach the dope, in a heartbeat.

To me, this is not a bug with Flynn, this is a feature.
This tbh. Americans don't even understand third generation warfare let alone fourth. They model themselves after the most successful warfare tactics of the German army where officers have initiative and are encouraged to take it, then they turn right aroind and punish them when showing initiative. I think it was a tank commander trainer that said he doesn't even know what he's there to teach for anyway.