So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

[StCapps]

The Marshall Plan required World War Two, 400,000 American KIA.

The Flight to Quality doesn't exist without the Hegenomy, and the Hegenomy was won by force of arms.

Right but the didn't get their Hegemony by going to war to nation build.

Yes we did, we invaded Europe and Asia and made it into our Empire of Liberty, supplanting the British as the Hegemon.

They went to war because they were attacked, not to Nation Build. The British were supplanted as the Hegemon because of going to war to nation build, America would be wise to learn that lesson and not repeat the same mistake. America sitting on sidelines and playing Flight to Quality, in both world wars, is a huge reason they became the Hegemon so quickly, along with British idiotic nation building attempts. The lesson from both World Wars is to stay out of fighting over nations that aren't important to your hegemony, or you could end up like the British.

[Smitty-48]

Right but the didn't get their Hegemony by going to war to nation build.

Yes we did, we invaded Europe and Asia and made it into our Empire of Liberty, supplanting the British as the Hegemon.

They went to war because they were attacked, not to Nation Build. The British were supplanted as the Hegemon because of going to war to nation build, America would be wise to learn that lesson and not repeat the same mistake.

Roosevelt exploited the opportunity, America was already in the war with Germany, on behalf of the British, before Japan attacked, moreover, the oil embargo against the Japanese in Indo-Malaya was an attack on Japan, preemptive, by America and Britain together. An embargo is an act of war, FDR and Churchill well knew it.

[StCapps]

Yes we did, we invaded Europe and Asia and made it into our Empire of Liberty, supplanting the British as the Hegemon.

They went to war because they were attacked, not to Nation Build. The British were supplanted as the Hegemon because of going to war to nation build, America would be wise to learn that lesson and not repeat the same mistake.

Roosevelt exploited the opportunity, America was already in the war with Germany, on behalf of the British, before Japan attacked, moreover, the oil embargo against the Japanese in Indo-Malaya was an attack on Japan, preemptive, by America and Britain together. An embargo is an act of war, FDR and Churchill well knew it.

So? The point is, America staying on the sidelines for longer and biding their time before committing to full scale war is the difference between losing an Empire and buying out an Empire. Britain lost their empire thanks to feckless nation building, America would be wise to not repeat that mistake and instead follow the strategy that lead to them becoming Hegemon so quickly in the first place. Not go looking for Belgium's and Poland's to protect so they can blow it all.

[Smitty-48]

They went to war because they were attacked, not to Nation Build. The British were supplanted as the Hegemon because of going to war to nation build, America would be wise to learn that lesson and not repeat the same mistake.

Roosevelt exploited the opportunity, America was already in the war with Germany, on behalf of the British, before Japan attacked, moreover, the oil embargo against the Japanese in Indo-Malaya was an attack on Japan, preemptive, by America and Britain together. An embargo is an act of war, FDR and Churchill well knew it.

So? The point is, America staying on the sidelines for longer and biding their time before committing to full scale war is the difference between losing an Empire and buying out an Empire. Britain lost their empire thanks to feckless nation building, America would be wise to not repeat that mistake and instead follow the strategy that lead to them becoming Hegemon so quickly in the first place.

America on the sidelines is a false narrative, America entered the conflict in 1917

America was not on the sidelines in the 1930's, the American Empire included China and the Philippines.

America has been a Hegemon by force of arms, since the Mexican-American War.

[StCapps]

Roosevelt exploited the opportunity, America was already in the war with Germany, on behalf of the British, before Japan attacked, moreover, the oil embargo against the Japanese in Indo-Malaya was an attack on Japan, preemptive, by America and Britain together. An embargo is an act of war, FDR and Churchill well knew it.

So? The point is, America staying on the sidelines for longer and biding their time before committing to full scale war is the difference between losing an Empire and buying out an Empire. Britain lost their empire thanks to feckless nation building, America would be wise to not repeat that mistake and instead follow the strategy that lead to them becoming Hegemon so quickly in the first place.

America on the sidelines is a false narrative, American entered the conflict in 1917

Last I checked, 1917 is after 1914. Not a false narrative, Britain went charging in and blew themselves up at the Somme before America ever entered the war, while America waited until Germany was worn down before jumping in. Obviously the American model is superior to the British model, and here you are advising America to go to the British model, for fucking Iraq or some shit. Get real dude.

Looking for Belgium's or Poland's to fight WWIII for in the name of nation building, is clearly a retarded strategy.

[Smitty-48]

So? The point is, America staying on the sidelines for longer and biding their time before committing to full scale war is the difference between losing an Empire and buying out an Empire. Britain lost their empire thanks to feckless nation building, America would be wise to not repeat that mistake and instead follow the strategy that lead to them becoming Hegemon so quickly in the first place.

America on the sidelines is a false narrative, American entered the conflict in 1917

Last I checked, 1917 is after 1914. Not a false narrative, Britain went charging in and blew themselves up, America waited until Germany was worn down before jumping in.

America didn't wait, America was backing the British & French against the German's from the start.

America was the one propping the British blockade up, the whole time.

Hence why the Germans switched to unrestricted submarine warfare, in desperation.

America in Isolation has never existed, it's a false narrative, certainly after America attacked Spain in 1898

[StCapps]

America on the sidelines is a false narrative, American entered the conflict in 1917

Last I checked, 1917 is after 1914. Not a false narrative, Britain went charging in and blew themselves up, America waited until Germany was worn down before jumping in.

America didn't wait, America was backing the British & French against the German's from the start.

America was the one propping the British blockade up, the whole time.

Hence why the Germans switched to unrestricted submarine warfare, in desperation.

America in Isolation has never existed, it's a false narrative, certainly after America attacked Spain.

Sit back and sell weapons, to build up the economy while the others bankrupt their economy fighting the war and waste a lot more lives in name of nation building for Belgium or Poland. Then play clean up.

I'm not talking isolation, you are putting words in my mouth, probably because you are trying to cover for the ass kicking you are receiving in this discussion.

[Smitty-48]

Last I checked, 1917 is after 1914. Not a false narrative, Britain went charging in and blew themselves up, America waited until Germany was worn down before jumping in.

America didn't wait, America was backing the British & French against the German's from the start.

America was the one propping the British blockade up, the whole time.

Hence why the Germans switched to unrestricted submarine warfare, in desperation.

America in Isolation has never existed, it's a false narrative, certainly after America attacked Spain.

Sit back and sell weapons. I'm not talking isolation, you are putting words in my mouth.

That gets you involved, that's how America gets into the war.

Selling arms to the British, the Lusitania attacked for it.

You can't stay out if you are the bank and the arsenal, in both wars this incited Germany to attack America.

[StCapps]

America didn't wait, America was backing the British & French against the German's from the start.

America was the one propping the British blockade up, the whole time.

Hence why the Germans switched to unrestricted submarine warfare, in desperation.

America in Isolation has never existed, it's a false narrative, certainly after America attacked Spain.

Sit back and sell weapons. I'm not talking isolation, you are putting words in my mouth.

That gets you involved, that's how America gets into the war.

Selling arms to the British, the Lusitania attacked for it.

You can't stay out if you are the bank and the arsenal, in both wars this incited Germany to attack America.

I'm pointing out that getting involved by being the bank and the arsenal is what won America it's hegemony, not charging into World Wars to nation build in Belgium and Poland. Not sure why you have to try and strawman that into isolationism, when you damn well know I'm not an isolationist, you fucking troll lulz. America should play the bank and the arsenal, not charge into Vietnam and Iraq in the name of nation building and preventing domino's from falling.

When they do go to war, for reasons of legit national interest instead of paranoid delusions of ten foot tall ideologies sweeping the world or instead of huffing the humanitarian pixie dust, there is no need for extended ground invasions either.

[Smitty-48]

Sit back and sell weapons. I'm not talking isolation, you are putting words in my mouth.

That gets you involved, that's how America gets into the war.

Selling arms to the British, the Lusitania attacked for it.

You can't stay out if you are the bank and the arsenal, in both wars this incited Germany to attack America.

I'm pointing out that getting involved by being the bank and the arsenal is what won America it's hegemony, not charging into World Wars to nation build in Belgium and Poland. Not sure why you have to try and strawman that into isolationism, when you damn well know I'm not an isolationist, you fucking troll lulz. America should play the bank and the arsenal, not charge into Vietnam and Iraq in the name of nation building and preventing domino's from falling.

That's not true though, because America did charge in, just like the British

America charged in against Mexico, then Spain, then Germany, then Japan.

The difference was, America was more powerful than the British, so America won.

Remember the Maine.