And another one bites the dust...

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Post by ooky » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:05 pm

DBTrek wrote:
ooky wrote:Despite the drive by some to make this moment all about "gynocentrism", I'd like to post this here to illustrate what I think this cultural moment is really more about. . . .

I find it very credible that Trump is in this exact vein - I am sure he also hates to be told "no" more than anything, and not just about sexual advances.
. . . .And we all went into immediate cardiac arrest when ooky managed to make Salma Hayek's sexual exploitation at the hands of Harvey Weinstein somehow about Trump.

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This cultural moment IS about Trump. Why do you think this is happening now? Why do you think the women's march happened? Have you not noticed like 100 congresswomen have called for him to be investigated by Congress and several have called on him to resign for his own serial behavior? OR that much of what is alleged against him and the pussy tape happened while at work or in proximity to work and power he held over women in various similar situations like women journalists covering him?

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:18 pm

We live in different worlds ooky.
/shrug

Trump plays a bigger role in yours, clearly.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:21 pm

This is ALL about gynocentrism. We are in a moment of unprecedented rape hoaxes perpetrated by dishonest women while an endless train of female teachers walk with minimal sentencing for raping boys, but all we hear about is how rough women have it and how we must believe every allegation women make regardless of the lack of credibility and evidence (which is real sexism).

Demanding we all cater even more to the demands of women is exactly what gynocentrism means. It doesn't even occur to you that men have it pretty bad too, worse when you consider the apathy society has for their suffering, and the reality that they can easily be punished for their own rape by coming forward. It's not about you. We all suffer from sexual predators, and your sisters do it just as much.

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by DrYouth » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:28 pm

Well to be fair, I think STA tends to be more gyno-obsessed than most.

But there is a cultural moment underway.

Social media has a lot to do with it... probably more so than Trump.

There is a platform available now to bring stories to the fore that did not exist before...

The question is whether this ends up doing more good than harm... so far it's hard to argue otherwise...

But the potential for the enthusiasm around this to go wrong is there, and shouldn't be underestimated.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:36 pm

more obsessed with true gender equality, really. I am quite keen to kick that fucking pedestal out from their feet.

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Post by DBTrek » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:36 pm

Al Franken is probably wondering why this “All about Trump” moment has put him in the unemployment line.
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Ph64 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:49 pm

DrYouth wrote:Well to be fair, I think STA tends to be more gyno-obsessed than most.

But there is a cultural moment underway.

Social media has a lot to do with it... probably more so than Trump.

There is a platform available now to bring stories to the fore that did not exist before...

The question is whether this ends up doing more good than harm... so far it's hard to argue otherwise...

But the potential for the enthusiasm around this to go wrong is there, and shouldn't be underestimated.
Of course "stories" can be researched factual information or pure fiction.

The former will help us have a better informed electorate... The latter, not so much. :roll:

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Post by C-Mag » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:57 pm

Muhammad resigns as prophet amid sexual assault allegations
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On the heels of this week's resignation of Karl Marx as leading figure in the communist movement due to allegations of sexual misconduct, the triggered social justice organizers of the #MeToo collective have claimed the scalp of another progressive icon.

At a press conference, supported by her family and lawyers, a woman named Aisha claimed that she was taken as a bride by Mr. Muhammad when she was nine years old. When asked why it took so long for her to come out, she stated that she feared nobody would believe her since the testimony of a woman is not worth a lot in her social circle. The crying woman also confessed that Mr. Muhammad used to beat her when she displeased him, and she feared physical retribution.

Mr. Beelzebub, the lawyer representing the accused prophet, denied the gravity of the accusations, saying that "everyone was doing it at the time," and that his client "did not remember the situation in quite the same way."

But later that day more stories emerged from other victims, encouraged by Aisha's testimony and resulting in the viral #MuhammadToo campaign on Twitter.

The first ones to come out were members of a Muslim Boy Scout group, who claimed that Mr. Muhammad ordered their fathers to beat them if they refused to pray. They were followed by a slave girl who was a victim of sex trafficking and claimed that the Prophet of Islam was present while she was being gang-raped shortly after his companions captured her and turned her into a sex slave.

These revelations led the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, the prestigious Islamic university in Cairo, to issue a statement, calling on Mr. Muhammad to step aside. "I've struggled with this decision because he's been a good Prophet, and I consider him a friend," the statement said. "But that cannot excuse his behavior and his mistreatment of women."

Reacting to pressure from colleagues and the media, Mr. Muhammad called a press conference and declared that after a good deal of soul-searching and consulting with his family members and lawyers, he finally made the tough decision to step down as prophet - a move that many in the Muslim community saw as a shock, followed by a sudden sense of relief.

The first world leader to respond was the Grand Ayatollah Khamenei of Iran. "I consider Mr. Muhammad a dear friend and respect his accomplishments, but he has a higher obligation to his believers," Mr. Khamenei said in a short statement. "Now that his legacy is tainted beyond repair, I call for the immediate dissolution of Islam as an ideology and a political movement. We are making preparations to convert the Islamic Republic of Iran back to Zoroastrianism immediately. Praise Zarathustra."

Worldwide, Muslims are now discovering further evidence of Mr. Muhammad's past misdeeds in the Islamic holy texts, which has remained overlooked for 14 centuries, despite having been reproduced in millions of copies, written or printed in black ink on white paper.

"If only I had known!" cried King Salman of Saudi Arabia, who spoke on behalf of the world's majority of Muslims. "Now that I'm reading the Quran more thoroughly, I'm suddenly finding all kinds of sexual misconduct and other improper behavior. All this talk about killing apostates, terrorism, and torture. Who could have guessed? He seemed like such a nice gentleman."

King Salman has not yet made a decision on what new replacement religion he will impose on his country, but insiders have indicated he is "showing an interest in Judaism."

People in the Palestinian territories of Gaza and the West Bank celebrated the resignation today by dancing in the streets and passing out candy to children. Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, insisted that from now on he wanted to be known only as "Mr. Mo" and described the new faith of his people as "officially atheist."

With no more reason for strife and jihad to continue, Mr. Mo set up a telephone call with Israel's PM Benjamin Netanyahu, proposing to start negotiations about the incorporation of the territories previously controlled by the PLO and HAMAS into the state of Israel. "Because after all," the PLO leader explained, "their army has hotter chicks."

Linda Sarsour was seen entering a nunnery. According to inside sources, she will henceforth be known as "Sister Linda of the Sacred Heart." The abbess declined an interview, saying only that "Sister Linda has taken a vow of silence, to atone for her sins. Leave her alone. She has suffered enough."

The website The Religion of Peace, known to keep track of jihad terror worldwide, has acknowledged a complete lack of new material since Mr. Muhammad's resignation and announced that it will probably have to shut down. "The world seems to have suddenly become a less violent and a much safer place," their editorial stated, asking readers to contact them if they find a reasonable explanation for this phenomenon.

Manufacturers of real news, CNN and BBC, were quick to point out that this newfound tranquility should not make us jump to conclusions, stressing that "world peace has nothing to do with the disappearance of Islam, and saying otherwise makes one a bigoted racist or maybe even a Trump supporter."
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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by ooky » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:14 pm

DBTrek wrote:Al Franken is probably wondering why this “All about Trump” moment has put him in the unemployment line.
:think:
Oh, he understands pretty well, I think. He mentioned it in his resignation speech.
I of all people am aware there is some irony in the fact I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party.
I'm sure we do exist in different worlds. But there were so many of us who could not believe a nation would vote Trump into office after we knew he was a confessed sexual assaulter with multiple credible alleged accusers coming forward before the election. I am so proud of what Alabama did this week, though -took an actual child molester rather than just woman creeper to make it happen, but it did. I never saw that coming because to many of us, it has felt like nothing matters anymore.

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Re: And another one bites the dust...

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:20 pm

LOL.

He didn't confess to sexual assault.