THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:40 am

C-Mag wrote:
apeman wrote:This a.m., an alleged leaked story is out claiming that Trump called Flynn at 3 a.m. to ask if a strong or weak dollar is good for the US.

If true, absolutely terrifying to me.

Probably just more Golden Showers. There has been so much Fake News, Propaganda and Partisanship by the Corporate Media that it is hard to believe anything that is put out.
Yeah, everything nowadays is prefaced with "if true, then ___"

Sad state of affairs

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:46 am

apeman wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
apeman wrote:This a.m., an alleged leaked story is out claiming that Trump called Flynn at 3 a.m. to ask if a strong or weak dollar is good for the US.

If true, absolutely terrifying to me.

Probably just more Golden Showers. There has been so much Fake News, Propaganda and Partisanship by the Corporate Media that it is hard to believe anything that is put out.
Yeah, everything nowadays is prefaced with "if true, then ___"

Sad state of affairs
Yeah the MSM really fucked themselves by lying about Trump so often. They have told the same lies way too many times.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:48 am

There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make about Trump, but the message is lost with all the misinformation.

Today, we learn that Yemen did not revoke US use of their facilities, contrary to NYT's headlines yesterday.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by BjornP » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:50 am

Would be ridiculous if they did. The Yemenite government is the one fighting with the Saudis against those rebels that the US got sent after.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:01 pm

apeman wrote:There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make about Trump, but the message is lost with all the misinformation.
Trump supporters often have infinitely better criticisms of Trump than his detractors. There are plenty of bugs, but the Trump haters go around wasting all their time claiming that a feature is actually a bug instead. Sad.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:10 pm

StCapps wrote:
apeman wrote:There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make about Trump, but the message is lost with all the misinformation.
Trump supporters often have infinitely better criticisms of Trump than his detractors. There are plenty of bugs, but the Trump haters go around wasting all their time claiming that a feature is actually a bug instead. Sad.
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You guys are all right. The Misinformation and Trumphobic reactions probably strengthen Trump in the long run and water down reasoned criticisms
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:30 pm

This election has made some strange bedfellows. Here Glen Greenwald addresses how the Deep State (Media and US Intelligence) are working to subvert Trump.
Greenwald makes the same case Hashworks members above are making about how this unfounded subversion damages our Democracy.


And the entire Greenwald Article
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11/the ... ems-cheer/
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by LVH2 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:53 pm

“Americans are going to have better choices and Americans are going to have better products because we’re not going to burden the banks with literally hundreds of billions of dollars of regulatory costs every year. The banks are going to be able to price product more efficiently and more effectively to consumers.”

“We have the best, most highly capitalized banks in the world, and we should use that to our competitive advantage,” he added. “But on the flip side, we also have the most highly regulated, overburdened banks in the world.”

So now big banks are good? Well, what's the worst that could happen?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-move ... 1486101602

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by DrYouth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:26 pm

StCapps wrote:Trump supporters often have infinitely better criticisms of Trump than his detractors. There are plenty of bugs, but the Trump haters go around wasting all their time claiming that a feature is actually a bug instead. Sad.
So when do we start seeing more effective critique around here...

Rather than hero worship and head shaking about all the SJWs, the MSM and what the Marxists are up to.

I'm prepared to give Trump a chance... but it would be nice to get some decent discussion about his actual policies...

What are we all giving Trump on his report card so far... realizing of course that it is early days... Is there much to really get excited about?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:32 pm

At the fundamental level, he is trying to realign corporate and worker interests under the auspices of one national interest. Right now, the result of globalism has resulted in those being totally opposed, and if not corrected, leading towards some form of ultra-nationalist uprising. One of the interesting things we have seen recently is the populations of various western nations trying to circumvent that.