Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

When discussing Putin/Trump conspiracy theories, it's worth remembering that lead-based paint wasn't banned in the United States until 1978.

I wasn't born in 1978 nor anytime before.

Well, at least you've admitted you're discussing conspiracy theories. O, hey, Richard Madcow will be on in a few minutes--see ya later.

[Dand]

Obama using the intelligence services to spy on his political opponents is kind of like Watergate. I think Penner has a good point. Too bad he got out of office and can't be impeached.

[Martin Hash]

NO! It isn't. What R U, a lawyer?

Wait are you arguing that Nixon didn't resign from the Office of the Presidency?

Review your debating rules for "false equivalency."

p.s. Search "Brian Dunning" in this forum.

[Martin Hash]

Obama using the intelligence services to spy on his political opponents is kind of like Watergate. I think Penner has a good point. Too bad he got out of office and can't be impeached.

Agreed. If info about Trump was passed to BHO during the election, that is an equivalency.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

Obama using the intelligence services to spy on his political opponents is kind of like Watergate. I think Penner has a good point. Too bad he got out of office and can't be impeached.

Nixon was looking for opposition research dirt with non-governmental employees on a Washington brothel frequented by democrats, while Obama turned "eighteen" government intelligence agencies against a presidential contender--apples and oranges have more in common.

[Penner]

When discussing Putin/Trump conspiracy theories, it's worth remembering that lead-based paint wasn't banned in the United States until 1978.

I wasn't born in 1978 nor anytime before.

Well, at least you've admitted you're discussing conspiracy theories. O, hey, Richard Madcow will be on in a few minutes--see ya later.

All I am saying is that the first scenario that SSU wrote is what the American people fear. I am not pushing any conspiracy theories here and the Watergate analogy is just an analogy in why the public wants to know what really happen between Russia, Trump, and many of his staffers, and those hacked DNC emails.

[Penner]

Obama using the intelligence services to spy on his political opponents is kind of like Watergate. I think Penner has a good point. Too bad he got out of office and can't be impeached.

Nixon was looking for opposition research dirt with non-governmental employees on a Washington brothel frequented by democrats, while Obama turned "eighteen" government intelligence agencies against a presidential contender--apples and oranges have more in common.

Too bad that most of the GOP and Dems in Congress, the media, most of the American people, and all of the US National Intelligence agencies actually do believe with like 90% certainly that Obama and/or his administration listen in on Trump, legally illegally.

[Speaker to Animals]

Fucking hell, Penner. Do you not understand that the comparable act to Watergate was Obama spying on Donald Trump during the campaign??

[Penner]

Fucking hell, Penner. Do you not understand that the comparable act to Watergate was Obama spying on Donald Trump during the campaign??

Dude, when did Obama, spied on Trump? Or did the Obama administration was spying on someone else, legally, and they got Trump and/or his associates by accident?

[Martin Hash]

It's the hypocrisy of the situation, Penner; most Trumpers don't care much about either.

You want to attack Trump where it hurts, there's a couple threads running here already: Ryancare, ISP privacy, Canadian pipelines. But maybe you're just trying to drum up Impeach Trump sentiment?