Poking the Bear Again
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Re: Poking the Bear Again
for exercise scenario, one UGM-133A Trident II could take the Russians out in Crimea, in 5-7 minutes
12 tactical nuclear strikes pretty much covers every target on the peninsula
if you were at the same time targeting the Russians in the South Caucasus ?
that would be another Trident going there
again, tho, just one SSBN-726 Ohio class with 24 Trident II's
that's enough tactical nuclear weapons for the whole theater
12 tactical nuclear strikes pretty much covers every target on the peninsula
if you were at the same time targeting the Russians in the South Caucasus ?
that would be another Trident going there
again, tho, just one SSBN-726 Ohio class with 24 Trident II's
that's enough tactical nuclear weapons for the whole theater
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bear in mind that W76-2 at 2-5 kilotons yield is not a giant nuclear explosion like Castle Bravo
these are very small and therefore very usable bombs
you're talking more like the explosion in Beirut, that was tac nuke sized
these are very small and therefore very usable bombs
you're talking more like the explosion in Beirut, that was tac nuke sized
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the difference with the tactical nuclear bomb is radiation
even with a Beirut sized blast, you get the secondary effects of nuclear weapons
1. Electromagnetic Pulse
2. Neutron Flash
3. Thermal Wave
for a moment, the bomb is hotter than the sun, 6 million degrees
so it more fries the targets than it does destroy them with the subsequent blast wave
if you take this to its logical conclusion, eventually you get down to the Neutron Bomb
Enhanced Radiation Weapon, the blast is only 1 kiloton yield, but it kills with radiation alone, and no fallout after
even with a Beirut sized blast, you get the secondary effects of nuclear weapons
1. Electromagnetic Pulse
2. Neutron Flash
3. Thermal Wave
for a moment, the bomb is hotter than the sun, 6 million degrees
so it more fries the targets than it does destroy them with the subsequent blast wave
if you take this to its logical conclusion, eventually you get down to the Neutron Bomb
Enhanced Radiation Weapon, the blast is only 1 kiloton yield, but it kills with radiation alone, and no fallout after
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this is how you take out enemy ICBM's in the silos with a counterforce
your MIRV pops right above their silo
the heat & radiation cooks the enemy ICBM in its silo, fries its electronics, renders it inert
that's a strategic counterforce
in a theater counterforce you are using smaller bombs against tactical targets,
like air bases, ships, command posts, etc
your MIRV pops right above their silo
the heat & radiation cooks the enemy ICBM in its silo, fries its electronics, renders it inert
that's a strategic counterforce
in a theater counterforce you are using smaller bombs against tactical targets,
like air bases, ships, command posts, etc
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Re: Poking the Bear Again
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:15 amthe difference with the tactical nuclear bomb is radiation
even with a Beirut sized blast, you get the secondary effects of nuclear weapons
1. Electromagnetic Pulse
2. Neutron Flash
3. Thermal Wave
for a moment, the bomb is hotter than the sun, 6 million degrees
so it more fries the targets than it does destroy them with the subsequent blast wave
if you take this to its logical conclusion, eventually you get down to the Neutron Bomb
Enhanced Radiation Weapon, the blast is only 1 kiloton yield, but it kills with radiation alone, and no fallout after
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see, when you load a Trident II with W76-2, that is only a maximum 60 kilotons for all the MIRV's combined
that is less firepower than a B61 freefall bomb which can be set for up to 340 kilotons
so it's 12 small bombs, that pepper the same target, for example all the Russian military around Sevastopol
that is less firepower than a B61 freefall bomb which can be set for up to 340 kilotons
so it's 12 small bombs, that pepper the same target, for example all the Russian military around Sevastopol
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back in 1983 that was the case perhapsMontegriffo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:32 amSmitty-48 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:15 amthe difference with the tactical nuclear bomb is radiation
even with a Beirut sized blast, you get the secondary effects of nuclear weapons
1. Electromagnetic Pulse
2. Neutron Flash
3. Thermal Wave
for a moment, the bomb is hotter than the sun, 6 million degrees
so it more fries the targets than it does destroy them with the subsequent blast wave
if you take this to its logical conclusion, eventually you get down to the Neutron Bomb
Enhanced Radiation Weapon, the blast is only 1 kiloton yield, but it kills with radiation alone, and no fallout after
the N-bombs would target Soviet tank formations coming over the Trace
but that was before precision guidance
now you can make your ERW's accurate down to the meter
you can drop one right down the chimney, at which point, you can kill the rich in their bunkers too
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this is where the cruise missiles come in
you employ the ballistic & cruise missiles together in combined arms
if you want to strike fast, preempt the adversary, that is the Prompt Global Strike with tactical ballistic missiles
at the same time, you have the cruise missiles coming to take out secondary smaller targets with precision
eventually everything goes Hypersonic
SSBN launched Hypersonic Glide Vehicles ( HGV ) at Mach 20 +
SSGN launched Hypersonic Cruise Missiles ( HCM ) at Mach 5 +
you employ the ballistic & cruise missiles together in combined arms
if you want to strike fast, preempt the adversary, that is the Prompt Global Strike with tactical ballistic missiles
at the same time, you have the cruise missiles coming to take out secondary smaller targets with precision
eventually everything goes Hypersonic
SSBN launched Hypersonic Glide Vehicles ( HGV ) at Mach 20 +
SSGN launched Hypersonic Cruise Missiles ( HCM ) at Mach 5 +
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now of course it is an Arms Race so there is a countermeasure side of the equation
this is how ABM 72' & INF 87' are linked
if you deploy ABM, the countermeasure is INF
if you deploy INF, the countermeasure is ABM
more INF forces you to deploy more ABM
more ABM forces you to deploy more INF
this was the escaltory spiral in the 1980's
the two treaties came together to stop it in 1987
when ABM 72' collapsed, that collapsed INF 87'
and all of a sudden the Cold War Arms Race was back, just like that
this is how ABM 72' & INF 87' are linked
if you deploy ABM, the countermeasure is INF
if you deploy INF, the countermeasure is ABM
more INF forces you to deploy more ABM
more ABM forces you to deploy more INF
this was the escaltory spiral in the 1980's
the two treaties came together to stop it in 1987
when ABM 72' collapsed, that collapsed INF 87'
and all of a sudden the Cold War Arms Race was back, just like that
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the Cold War actually ceased to be an ideological confrontation when Nixon went to China
Nixon proved that not all Communists were the same
we could make a cold peace with the Chinese Communists
so this was never about Communism at all, this was just about the Soviets
suddenly the Soviets were surrounded by both America & China together
this is when they got desperate, invaded Afghanistan and deployed INF's in Europe
then America responded by invoking Ballistic Missile Defense in the face of that, with the SDI in 1983
Nixon proved that not all Communists were the same
we could make a cold peace with the Chinese Communists
so this was never about Communism at all, this was just about the Soviets
suddenly the Soviets were surrounded by both America & China together
this is when they got desperate, invaded Afghanistan and deployed INF's in Europe
then America responded by invoking Ballistic Missile Defense in the face of that, with the SDI in 1983
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