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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:57 am
DBTrek wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:17 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
DBTrek wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:31 am
And then what happened, in hyperbolic freak out world?
I mean, I guess you may not have an issue with federal occupation of cities... last time it happened was Civil War 1.0.
This time?
1957-58
Desegregation of Little Rock school
On Sept. 23, 1957, President Dwight Eisenhower signed an executive order sending troops from the Army's 101st Airborne Division to maintain order and peace during the integration of Central High School by nine black students in Little Rock, Ark. Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus earlier called in the state National Guard to bar black students from the school.
Or this one?
Selma, Montgomery civil rights march
On March 7, 1965, which became known as "Bloody Sunday," peaceful protesters led by John Lewis were beaten by local police as they tried to cross Selma's Edmund Pettus Bridge. The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. led more than 3,000 marchers across the same bridge two weeks later and continued on a 54-mile trek to Montgomery, the state's capital, under the watchful protection of the recently federalized Alabama National Guard. The five-day march, one of the seminal moments in civil rights history, led to the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965.
Or this?
1968
Chicago riots following assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
On April 4, 1968, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated in Memphis, Tenn. As the tragic news spread, riots and looting took place in cities including New York, Washington, Nashville, Tenn., and Raleigh, N.C. In Chicago on the first night of rioting, nine people, all black, were killed. On Saturday, with the approval of Mayor Richard J. Daley, the Army was called in and thousands of troops descended on the city's troubled areas. When the fires died out, 162 buildings had been destroyed, 12 people killed and 3,000 arrested.
... I mean, damn dude. If your history is right we're headed for Civil War 7.0 or so.
Hmm, ok, I'll eat my crow. We've actually used federal army troops on 5 occasions.
https://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek ... mestically
Still never involved SECDEF or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs personally overseeing operations. That's a very weird precedent.
And I don't love thinking that we're right back in 1968 right now. Business as usual, huh?
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by Martin Hash » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:01 pm
When it comes, it will be worse than 1968 because the ideology wasn’t changing, just the social structure.
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by Martin Hash » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:03 pm
These “protestors” aren’t just looking for equal opportunity & representation. This is egalitarianism.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:26 pm
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:03 pm
These “protestors” aren’t just looking for equal opportunity & representation. This is egalitarianism.
Egalitarianism (from French égal, meaning 'equal'), or equalitarianism,[1][2] is a school of thought within political philosophy that builds from the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for all people.[3] Egalitarian doctrines are generally characterized by the idea that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.[4] Egalitarianism is the doctrine that all citizens of a state should be accorded exactly equal rights.[5]
The term egalitarianism has two distinct definitions in modern English:[6] either as a political doctrine that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social and civil rights,[7] or as a social philosophy advocating the removal of economic inequalities among people, economic egalitarianism, or the decentralization of power. Some sources define egalitarianism as equality reflecting the natural state of humanity.[8][9][10]
You may want to choose another term. Most people will take it to mean the bolded portion.
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by Martin Hash » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:31 pm
Egalitarianism is the basis of Marxism. People will insist they are not Marxist but admit they are egalitarian.
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by Zlaxer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:55 pm
Keyword “rights” not “results”.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:30 pm
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:31 pm
Egalitarianism is the basis of Marxism. People will insist they are not Marxist but admit they are egalitarian.
Egalitarianism is a virtue.
Clarify your terms. I happen to know what you mean, but general public will not.
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by DBTrek » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:53 pm
The homeless and prison populations are egalitarian as fuck.
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by GloryofGreece » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:11 pm
This will end with some kind of "equity " legislation giving all blacks payments for eternity. There will be mandatory quotas that have more teeth in them as well. the so called black political leadership will insist this gets through b/c they inherently know their power is doomed demographically. The Hispanics are here and growing and replacing them as the new primarily oppressed race.
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by Martin Hash » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:19 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:30 pm
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:31 pm
Egalitarianism is the basis of Marxism. People will insist they are not Marxist but admit they are egalitarian.
Egalitarianism is a virtue.
Clarify your terms. I happen to know what you mean, but general public will not.
I’ve never had anyone deny it. No member of The Patriarchy admires egalitarians. The Equality definition is commonly understood.
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