Global overpopulation

[StCapps]

There's no mental games played by me. The facts speak for themselves. Most of the pollution is coming from nonwhite nations. You claim that's because they are poorer. But even here in America, one need only literally drive to minority neighborhoods to see the truth: garbage everywhere.

This is Baltimore:




They really don't give a shit, capps.

That's because poor. Go look at a neighborhood with a bunch of rich black people living there and show me the garbage, bet you cant.

Most of the pollution is coming from non-first world nations, that correlation is stronger than most of the pollution is coming from non-white nations.

[Speaker to Animals]

There's no mental games played by me. The facts speak for themselves. Most of the pollution is coming from nonwhite nations. You claim that's because they are poorer. But even here in America, one need only literally drive to minority neighborhoods to see the truth: garbage everywhere.

This is Baltimore:




They really don't give a shit, capps.

That's because poor. Go look at a neighborhood with a bunch of rich black people living there and show me the garbage, bet you cant.

Most of the pollution is coming from non-first world nations, that correlation is stronger than most of the pollution is coming from non-white nations.

See, you are not thinking rationally.

Those Baltimore blacks are rich as fuck compared to Africans, and they pollute at similar levels. There's no correlation between poverty and pollution at all.

Lots of poor white people clean up after themselves. It's insulting to poor people to imply they are slobs because they don't have money.

[Speaker to Animals]

This has been the intellectual progression of many on the dissident right:

First we realized that Breitbart was right when he said politics is downstream from culture. Then we realized that culture is downstream from genetics. Most of our political battles are genetic in nature; whorish women versus virtuous married women, different racial biases conflicting, weak men (collectivism, social welfare) versus strong men (individualism, self-reliance), etc.

Environmentalism is mostly a white value. It derives from white genetic traits that I think became predominant as a result of the Black Death, but could predate even that. That doesn't mean other races might not intellectually grasp that if we keep burning the candle at both ends the entire planet could suffer, but even there you are faced with the fact that more than half of the black African population can't really even understand why this is the case. You cannot possibly explain to the average black in Haiti that they need to stop dumping their shit in the water supply. If you think people have not been trying for decades, then you are not paying attention.

If you don't accept the role genetics plays on behavior of animals, including yourself, then you are fucking lost. You can't understand a damned thing about the world around you.

[StCapps]

Like I said, go look at a rich black neighborhood, it won't be filled with garbage. Until you show me a bunch of rich black people living in garbage, I ain't buying your "black people are genetically predisposed to not caring about the environment" theory.

[Speaker to Animals]

A rich black neighborhood? LOL

Rich black people move to white neighborhoods, bro. Where in butffuck Canada do you live again?

Black people in general are constantly trying to escape themselves. They follow us wherever we move to. When blacks made the inner cities unlivable, whites moved to the suburbs. Blacks just kept following whites. If every last white person up and left America to return to Europe, black people would follow them there.

[Fife]

Bel Air is Clean AF

[StCapps]

Bel Air is Clean AF

Will Smith Knows. I don't recall garbage surrounding Uncle Phil's place like in Baltimore.

[Fife]

[brewster]

Pollution is a function of GDP. More economic activity pollutes more. The US is the largest economy in the world. We pollute the most. The discussion of trash is beside the point, even though we create more of it by far than anyone else, industrial pollution is where the real numbers are.

As for renewables, here's yet another article about wind becoming cheaper than gas. In this case, the study say building turbines is cheaper than even burning gas in already existing plants. Yes turbines take up room, but we're the fucking Saudi Arabia of wind! Every cornfield in Iowa should have turbines too, and stop with the ethanol from grain nonsense.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08 ... tural-gas/

This week, the US Department of Energy released a report that looks back on the state of wind power in the US by running the numbers on 2018. The analysis shows that wind hardware prices are dropping, even as new turbine designs are increasing the typical power generated by each turbine. As a result, recent wind farms have gotten so cheap that you can build and operate them for less than the expected cost of buying fuel for an equivalent natural gas plant.

[Otern]

Pollution is a function of GDP. More economic activity pollutes more. The US is the largest economy in the world. We pollute the most. The discussion of trash is beside the point, even though we create more of it by far than anyone else, industrial pollution is where the real numbers are.

As for renewables, here's yet another article about wind becoming cheaper than gas. In this case, the study say building turbines is cheaper than even burning gas in already existing plants. Yes turbines take up room, but we're the fucking Saudi Arabia of wind! Every cornfield in Iowa should have turbines too, and stop with the ethanol from grain nonsense.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08 ... tural-gas/

This week, the US Department of Energy released a report that looks back on the state of wind power in the US by running the numbers on 2018. The analysis shows that wind hardware prices are dropping, even as new turbine designs are increasing the typical power generated by each turbine. As a result, recent wind farms have gotten so cheap that you can build and operate them for less than the expected cost of buying fuel for an equivalent natural gas plant.

Thanks for bringing it back on topic. And yes, pollution is a function of economic activity.

The problem with wind power is energy storage. No doubt wind power will be more common in the future, but it really can't replace natural gas or coal. We need power plants who can generate power according to the demand, and this is impossible with wind and solar power. They're a great addition to other systems, but we need to base energy production on methods where it's possible to store the energy.

Gas, coal and hydropower are great at this. Hydropower is probably the most valuable method there is, since it can store vast amounts of energy, generate power as it's needed, and even pump water back in the dams whenever energy is dirt cheap, for example together with wind.

But most countries really don't have the geography for hydropower. Norway, Greenland, Venezuela Canada and Brazil have enough waterfalls and rivers to exploit this to the fullest, but it's simply not enough of it to supply the world's energy demand this way.

Also, keeping in mind how valuable fresh water will be, a lot of the countries with large hydropowerplants have to choose between electricity and irrigation. China and India really can't waste any more water now, and there will be conflicts between the interests of the agricultural sector and the industrial sector.