Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by brewster » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:01 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:46 pm
Yelling “Republicans so white and hostile” and linking some half-century old NYT article about the random opinions of a self-described “ethnologist”certainly changes all the facts on the ground about the Dixiecrat myth.
I guess you missed the part that at the time of the interview he's a Nixon strategist in his office a couple of doors down from Attorney General Mitchell. The guy literally wrote the book on the subject https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-revi ... -majority/
The Emerging Republican Majority
According to this young lawyer, who recently joined the Nixon administration, the upcoming cycle in our politics will match a majority Republican party composed of Northern blue-collar workers, Catholic and ""Sun Belt"" suburbanites, Southern whites, and Midwesterners, against a minority Democratic party drawn from Northeastern and Northwestern liberals and Negroes. His prediction is based on a theory which shows American politics moving in thirty to forty year spans dominated by one of the two parties, and on a careful historical survey of regional and ethnic voting patterns since the Civil War. Phillips marshalls some impressive evidence for his views, citing in particular the conservative implications of increasing suburbanization. But there are deep flaws. With satisfaction, the author notes that the Nixon administration owes little to Negroes or to the cities. And yet, if the GOP fails to deal effectively with the racial and urban crises, it is questionable whether any of the socio-historical trends he describes can sustain it in power. One wonders too about the durability of the rightward drift shown in the last election, should an end to the war permit an easing of taxes and a reallocation of priorities and resources. Also ignored by Phillips is Teddy Kennedy, whose liberal charisma could upset the applecart in '72. All of which is to suggest that seen from another angle, the Republican (read conservative) hegemony envisioned here is not that secure. Still, despite its weaknesses (and its length, redundancy, and dull writing) the analysis is interesting, and should unsettle those who are hoping that the Nixon reign is merely an interregnum.
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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 pm

Maybe instead of trying to figure out what drew whites to the Republican party, the Democrat party should try and figure out what drove them away.

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by brewster » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:21 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 pm
Maybe instead of trying to figure out what drew whites to the Republican party, the Democrat party should try and figure out what drove them away.
It's stated pretty clearly in the article, the party advocating civil rights and being receptive to the blacks made the southern whites feel unwelcome, so they left. Not all whites. But it did happen regardless of why, conservative southern whites left the Dems and joined the GOP as the blacks did the reverse. So why is this "no they didn't flip" meme important?
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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm

The GOP advocated the civil rights act. Almost all opposition came from democrats.It was a republican law.

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:31 pm

LBJ did the nigger acts. He was also a piece of shit human being. Rumored to be part Jewish as well.

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by brewster » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm
The GOP advocated the civil rights act. Almost all opposition came from democrats.It was a republican law.
Which is exactly why the "southern strategy" was so cynical.

Interesting graphic. See that dip in 28? They were put off by Catholic Al Smith on the Dem ticket.
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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by DBTrek » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:51 pm

brewster wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:01 pm
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I guess you missed the part that at the time of the interview he's a Nixon strategist in his office a couple of doors down from Attorney General Mitchell. The guy literally wrote the book on the subject https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-revi ... -majority/
I guess you missed the part where one Republican out of tens of millions stating opinions that aren’t supported by historical data does not matter.

You don’t see abortion rights as a black and minority genocide scheme, I’m guessing - so pretending the ideas of one person encapsulate an entire movement is silly. Like, how dumb do you really have to be to believe that because One guy said it, it must be true, even though the data doesn’t support the conclusion?

“Sarah Huckabee Sanders says God wanted Trump, therefore in 2016 all Republicans believed Trump was appointed by God”

Derp.

Really dude, think for yourself. Don’t be so easily led.
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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by Hastur » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:12 am

The big switch is a myth. The Democrats are still the racists, only now they manifest it by the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations. The black man can't raise himself by his own power so we need to shower him in gibs and affirmative action.

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by Hastur » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:34 am

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Re: Once and for all. Flipping of the Parties.

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:04 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:16 pm
Maybe when Democrats decided sexual liberation is more important than workers rights a lot of people left.
You should listen to and read E Michael Jones. The left essentially gave up workers rights so go speak in exchange for sexual liberation. Ol bait and switch. Some of his most compelling arguments are about the culture destruction of the 1960s onwards and the machinations behind them of course.
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