The RNC are taking people who are tired of not being heard... The DNC, are taking those who should be in an asylum.

[C-Mag]

Also, Jefferson was the biggest liberal in America that I know of. He saw the French revolution first hand and liked what he saw. Think about that shit before you assign your name to his legacy.

This is liberalism, fam:

I don't think any of that is something to get hung up on. The key point of that Martins Minutes was that actions must have consequences.

[Martin Hash]

Also, Jefferson was the biggest liberal in America that I know of. He saw the French revolution first hand and liked what he saw. Think about that shit before you assign your name to his legacy.

Dude, for a guy who doesn't like Jefferson or Hamilton, what the hell are you doing in this country? The Law itself is against you.

[Speaker to Animals]

Also, Jefferson was the biggest liberal in America that I know of. He saw the French revolution first hand and liked what he saw. Think about that shit before you assign your name to his legacy.

This is liberalism, fam:

I don't think any of that is something to get hung up on. The key point of that Martins Minutes was that actions must have consequences.

We are talking about a group of people who actively deny the consequences of degeneracy. Getting fucked in the ass by random men is supposedly a moral good that should be codified into law, and we all should be forced to participate in it, but don't you dare point out the fact that this degeneracy has literally killed hundreds of thousands of people in America alone from HIV infections, results in high rates of mental illness, suicide, and is correlated with drug abuse.

Liberals of both stripes abhor anybody speaking of the consequences of their degeneracy.

But when it comes to YOUR life, then you have to deal with the consequences of your straw use, your plastic bags at the grocery store, etc. etc.

Fuck liberals.

[Martin Hash]

The Revolution was over 200 years ago. My side won.

[Speaker to Animals]

Your side wasn't a combatant. Your side won in 1865.

There weren't many liberals in America in the 18th century. Your confusing America with France. LOL

[The Conservative]

The concept of "Marxist liberty" vs. "Jeffersonian liberty" is one I developed while I was going to Dem meetings last year. Those Leftists (way, WAY more socialists and outright Marxists than in any of my previous decade of going to meetings) also believed in personal autonomy (liberty), and it took me a while to figure out what the difference was. My conservative view of liberty I now call Jeffersonian liberty to distinguish the two. Then there's what the world calls liberty (they conflate it with freedom), then there's StA's view (maybe shared by others, I don't have a lot of contact with elitists) where only special people get liberty.

You realize our views on this are a lot closer than either of us thought?

[Martin Hash]

Your side wasn't a combatant. Your side won in 1865.

There weren't many liberals in America in the 18th century. Your confusing America with France. LOL

My dad's very proud of his "Sons of the Revolution" uniform. The last time he visited, we looked at tricorn hats on the Internet.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Liberalism in 2000 was still about degeneracy and hate, but they hid it well. The main difference between now and then is that they no longer hide it, and the people who mistakenly thought of themselves as liberals are now trying to process the truth.

The harder pill to swallow for the other side is the nasty truth about what the neocons and libertarians actually are (hint: more liberals).

The red herring that confuses everybody is the economics debate, which really has fuck all to do with it.

Fuck to do with it. You should try State Socialism.

[Speaker to Animals]

Liberalism in 2000 was still about degeneracy and hate, but they hid it well. The main difference between now and then is that they no longer hide it, and the people who mistakenly thought of themselves as liberals are now trying to process the truth.

The harder pill to swallow for the other side is the nasty truth about what the neocons and libertarians actually are (hint: more liberals).

The red herring that confuses everybody is the economics debate, which really has fuck all to do with it.

Fuck to do with it. You should try State Socialism.

Already living that nightmare. Fuck socialism and liberalism too.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Liberalism in 2000 was still about degeneracy and hate, but they hid it well. The main difference between now and then is that they no longer hide it, and the people who mistakenly thought of themselves as liberals are now trying to process the truth.

The harder pill to swallow for the other side is the nasty truth about what the neocons and libertarians actually are (hint: more liberals).

The red herring that confuses everybody is the economics debate, which really has fuck all to do with it.

Fuck to do with it. You should try State Socialism.

Already living that nightmare. Fuck socialism and liberalism too.

What?

There are independent companies? Everyone works for the state?