Watched Dean Martin Roast Bob Hope Last Night...

[MilSpecs]

You have a mind that seeks to make sense of the world by logical categorization, but it leads you to try to put things in buckets that aren’t that neat. You have had bad experiences with women. Maybe those women had similarities, but remember that you are the commonality between them. As long as you see women this way, you will attract that type of woman.

Huh?

I only had trouble with one of them and, sister, I was exactly what you say you want. I gave her too much control. I tried to make everything equal.

And you’re doing the same thing; generalizing. What I want? Everybody’s different. You don’t know what I want, which may be entirely different from what Kath wants, which may be entirely different from what another woman wants, and so on.

You are unwilling to consider that you may be getting what you want. But what would I know about self-reflection?

[Speaker to Animals]

You have a mind that seeks to make sense of the world by logical categorization, but it leads you to try to put things in buckets that aren’t that neat. You have had bad experiences with women. Maybe those women had similarities, but remember that you are the commonality between them. As long as you see women this way, you will attract that type of woman.

Huh?

I only had trouble with one of them and, sister, I was exactly what you say you want. I gave her too much control. I tried to make everything equal.

And you’re doing the same thing; generalizing. What I want? Everybody’s different. You don’t know what I want, which may be entirely different from what Kath wants, which may be entirely different from what another woman wants, and so on.

You are unwilling to consider that you may be getting what you want. But what would I know about self-reflection?

I am not generalizing at all, though.

There exists an evolutionary psychological explanation for this behavior. That's not generalization. That's the reason for it.


Go back to my earlier question you cut out:

Have you not considered the possibility that, while women want power, careers, and access to lives lived as men do, they would have been happier living traditionally as women?

Women *want* all these women's lib things, but the result is that they continue to sink into unhappiness as they choose those lives. Women are far less happy today than they were before women's lib. It's been a steady decline across the western world since the 1950s.

So, once again, I state the obvious fact: what women think they want and what they really want are not the same at all, and probably in conflict. I would add that what they *think* they want is probably yet another thing that has nothing to do with what they *say* they want and nothing to do at all with what they really want beneath the surface.

[Kath]

Yes... lol

Women were happier when they needed a man's permission to get a bank account and being raped by their husbands was legal.

You so cute.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yes... lol

Women were happier when they needed a man's permission to get a bank account and being raped by their husbands was legal.

You so cute.

*sigh*

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... -declining

Yes, the more control women have gained over their own lives, the more unhappy they have become. This is a trend that is steady and directly correlated to your freedom of choices in life.

There exists an ethical principle of equity that dictates women ought to be given autonomy and freedom to live out their lives as they choose.

Then there exists the undeniable fact that women make shitty choices that result in social dysfunction and general unhappiness, especially their own personal unhappiness.

Consider that what you think you want and what would actually make you happy are two very different things, and you are not very inclined to figure that out without deliberate effort.

[Kath]

I must have a penis I haven't found in 51 years. I'm ridiculously happy at how my life is going. I have no regrets. if I die today, I will die knowing I lived my life the way I should have.

So, where do I look to find my penis?

[Speaker to Animals]

You don't seem to grasp the fact that, statistically, women have become incredibly unhappy as a result of all this.

You also can't reconcile my two points that it is both just to give women the freedom of choice *and* women tend to make shit choices.

It works out better for both you and the man if the man takes charge. You might be an outlier but, statistically, women make very poor choices. My best guess for why they make such poor choices across the board is that they don't really self-reflect enough, and cannot differentiate between what their social group says they should want with what they really want (i.e. what makes them happy). They are constantly told feminism saved them and they really want male career paths, power, etc., and they buy into that without ever considering that those things will make them unhappy.

This is why you see feminists so often denigrating housewives. Housewives tend to be happier women. Which at some level has to irk career women who are generally unhappy, but achieving what the social zeitgeist told them to do.

You are social creatures in nature. It's not natural for women to take an unpopular stand or question what the group is demanding. This is why social media is so powerful over women. It's also why feminism was so effective once it took control of the culture.

Women have been unhappy as fuck ever since.

[nmoore63]

Been awhile since I have seen the benevolent slave master argument put forward in good faith.

[Speaker to Animals]

Been awhile since I have seen the benevolent slave master argument put forward in good faith.

Straw man.


I still think women should have these freedoms. No Argument Nick is back, I see.

[Kath]

[Speaker to Animals]

So, again, there's no argument to dispute the undeniable fact that women's lib, as just in principle as it may have been, resulted in drastic declines in female happiness.


This stuff isn't even debatable. Women are demonstrably less happy, severely so. The more choices you gain for yourselves, the less happy you become as a result of your choices.

That doesn't mean I think we should take away all your freedoms of choice. I am just stating the fucking obvious at this point. Women would be happier letting their men lead the relationship, and seeking out men who are actually capable of leading a relationship in the first place. Leadership does not imply domination, but when women try to lead, they tend to want to dominate. Whereas when men try to dominate their wives, other men will eventually cut them down.

Instead women try to dominate their relationships (see milspecs comments about how she loves "high maintenance" men) and they seek men who will let them do it. But then they refashion those men into something they loathe and they end up destroying the marriage.

The sad truth is that most of us men desperately want women who are our equals. This is why the development I described in our society is so dangerous. Men want partners in life in every sense of the word partner. But our society does not raise women who can be that.