Sessions to California: Federal Law is Supreme, We Will Kill You

[SuburbanFarmer]

LOL The Constitution doesn't specifically prohibit rape and murder, but you'll find the government rather slow to accept that as well.

Tenth Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

NOWHERE does the Constitution delegate to the federal government the authority to deny secession.

Murder and rape are not federal crimes, either. Dumb ass.

:yawn:

Which article of the Constitution prohibits airline hijacking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_c ... ted_States

Other federal crimes include mail fraud, aircraft hijacking, carjacking, kidnapping, bank robbery, child pornography, credit card fraud, identity theft, computer crimes, federal hate crimes, violations of the Federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), obscenity, tax evasion, counterfeiting, violations of the Espionage Act, violations of the Patriot Act, illegal wiretapping, art theft from a museum,[1] damaging or destroying public mailboxes, immigration offenses, and since 1965 in the aftermath of the President John F. Kennedy's assassination, assassinating or attempt assassination of the President or Vice President.[2]

[Okeefenokee]

You're such an idiot.

The constitution does not enumerate every federal law.

It enables federal law.

Federal law did not bar secession.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You're such an idiot.

The constitution does not enumerate every federal law.

It enables federal law.

Federal law did not bar secession.

Except for just after the civil war.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

How come states never threaten secession over something rad?

It is always some lame-ass bullshit.

Still, I look forward to meeting you all on the field of battle. I think CA is wrong on this one, personally, but Sessions is a dick, so, fuck it, bring it on you Federal sums'bithces!

[BjornP]

Has Bjorn showed up to tell GCF that the dissolution of a United Kingdom into smaller, separate kingdoms is not that different than a state seceding (aka dissolving its bonds) from a larger union of states yet?

Because Bjorn is apparently the only authority qualified to teach GCF English.

Hastur's already brought out the Slovakia and Czech Republic as an example of peaceful secession. And yeah, reading various definitions of the word "secede", I don't really see why GCF thought that that word only applied to either the US exclusively, or federalized republics generally, or whatever his reasoning was.

But I'll indulge him in correcting both of you, so.... capitalizing the "U" and "K" when you write "a United Kingdom" is wrong when you're talking about a personal union between kingdoms. For grammatical and proper identification purposes. The United Kingdom, capitalized, refers to a specific united kingdom. Since there have been many kingdoms who united, and only one of these has as it's official title United Kingdom, you should use lower case lettering to describe the personal union between Norway and Sweden, and any other non-British united kingdom that does not have "United Kingdom of..." as its official title.

Hope that was appropriately "fair and balanced" for everyone...

(It's been a while since we've seen Flip, btw, hasn't it?)

[BjornP]

Oh, and as for the "legality" of seceding itself...

Guys, why even care if revolt, rebellion or seceding is legal or not? Was your rebellion 240-something years ago against the British crown legal as per British law? Was it written down somewhere? If rising up against your government actually was explicitly forbidden in your constitution... then what? "Aww shucks! We can't revolt anymore... the State we want to revolt against says revolting, rebelling and revolutions is illegal. They even showed us the paperwork and everything. Ah well, back to the fields...".

If Californians want to secede, the traditional way is to pick up guns and kill the people who want to prevent them from doing so. They can come to a peaceful agreement with their head of state that allows to them secede, and that's the more desirable path, but such an arrangement shouldn't hinge on a piece of paper allowing them, or forbidden them from, rebelling against the state.

[jediuser598]

The reason the South stopped with the idea of seceding is the north killed enough of them and burnt down enough stuff that they were like, "well yeah, I guess that was a bad idea."

Like I said to Smitty once, it's vae victis from top to bottom. All the real big questions are solved with violence.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Has Bjorn showed up to tell GCF that the dissolution of a United Kingdom into smaller, separate kingdoms is not that different than a state seceding (aka dissolving its bonds) from a larger union of states yet?

Because Bjorn is apparently the only authority qualified to teach GCF English.

Hastur's already brought out the Slovakia and Czech Republic as an example of peaceful secession. And yeah, reading various definitions of the word "secede", I don't really see why GCF thought that that word only applied to either the US exclusively, or federalized republics generally, or whatever his reasoning was.

My general reasoning is simply that 'a nation would never voluntarily split off a section of itself and lose power, without violence'.

Slovakia is an interesting case, but you have to consider that they were already re-shuffled, separated, and combined 3 times in the 20th century, and that there is a distinct ethnic difference between the Czechs and Slovaks.

I don't think that there's any such argument concerning California, of course, and the US is much more a 'coherent' nation than Czechoslovakia ever was. Not only that, but being a superpower confers its own strategic and economic concerns. We can't simply hang a minor nation-state off one coast, and wait for someone else to take it.

Any serious movement at secession would lead to a federal smack-down with extreme prejudice. The only thing to hold them back would be the major media center there, and making sad faces on all of our actors/actresses. Those people have a LOT of power over public opinion. They'll also never support an actual armed uprising, so who knows how weird our tv could get.

[Speaker to Animals]

It happened a lot during the rise of the nation state. The HRE literally broke apart into nation states because they were getting completely wrecked by nation states (like France) which are more effective.

[Fife]

Still working through this short little soundbite.